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Dennis_Jeffrey
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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 06:49 AM in reply to: jweiss

It helps to put that in your signature for future use.

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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 07:26 AM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

I'd like to change my previous answer from what I said (use a subassembly), to what Dennis said (use a view rep)! :smileyhappy:

 

Actually both would work, but Dennis' solution is the better choice.

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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 08:24 AM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

Hi Dennis,

 

I followed your instructions and created the LOD and design rep and all the parts suppress and un-suppress properly.  When I suppress the welds in my new LOD they stay suppress is all LOD's including the master.  The welds do not reactive to different LOD's like the components do.

 

Please try your process on my dataset and let me know if you see the same thing as I do.  I want to see all welds in all views except the sub-assy view in the middle of sheet 2.

 

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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 09:00 AM in reply to: jweiss

I did it without issue in 2011, however, it should work the same way in 2010. See attachment.

 

 

I'll be out of the office for most of the day, but if you cannot get it to work, let me know and I'll redo in Inventor 2010 or contact you.

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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 10:36 AM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

Hi Dennis,

 

I just tried again and the welds are not being controlled by the LOD.  I've followed you instructions twice and either the welds are suppressed in all LOD's or they are on.  It doesn't seem like LOD can control the weld suppression in Invento 2010. 

 

If you can try this in INV2010 I would really appreciate it.  I'm pretty good at Inventor and this does not seem to work.

 

 

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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 11:15 AM in reply to: jweiss

Hi guys,

Okay I'm gonna waffle on this again (maybe I'll go into politics soon!).

 

I looks like when I ran through Dennis' steps this morning, I didn't update the drawing views and therefore didn't catch that the weld reapeared in the view when unsuppressed.But I just ran though it again and sure enough it's an all or nothing thing.

 

So, I'm back to my earlier recomendation of using a subassembly for the 3 parts (00958421, 00102137, 00958413) for the first step. If the concern is that the subassembly will list in the BOM, just be sure to set the subassembly as Phantom. Weld beads 1 and 14 will need to be removed from the top level assembly and placed in the sub.

 

And then the view on sheet 2 needs to be set to 'Assembly' in the Model State area, this will show the top level assembly as it existed before the second series of welds were created.

 

I did this all in Inventor 2010

 

Okay, that's my stand on this for now (until Dennis comes back and shows us a better way!)

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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 11:20 AM in reply to: BMiller63

I have to agree with you.  I've tried your workflow and everthing worked great.  I was hoping that I would be able to do it without having to create a sub-assembly and use LOD like Dennis suggested.  I would be really curious to see if this is an improvement to INV2011.

 

Thanks for all your help!

 

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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 05:02 PM in reply to: BMiller63

It worked in 2011. You can see selected welds in the attachment. I'll try it again in 2010 when I get a chance.  Tell me which welds (by name) you want to preserve.

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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 05:36 PM in reply to: jweiss

Just redid th eexercise in Inventor 2010 SP3. Same result. I can supress/unsupress welds at will.  Here's the 2010 result.

 

Sheet 2 View 16.

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Re: How do you turn off visibility or suppress welds for use in drawing views

06-14-2010 05:50 PM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

but can you show welds 1 and 14 only on sheet 2 and then show all of the welds on sheet 3?

Sheet2 being weld stage 1 and sheet3 being weld stage 2.

 

It seems that you can either have welds suppressed or not have them suppresed there is no way to represent the same weldment in two different views at two different stages. The view rep does not hold the weld supression state when toggled back on/off.

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