How To Crash Inventor... Works Every Time :-(

[Anonymous]

Caution to all and "helloooo to Autodesk".



Have not used "Auto Dimension" in the past, so thought I would give it some use. Guess I found out why I never used it. It causes Inventor to CRASH. Some kind of memory error.



See PDF in CF for screen dump.



Regards,



Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

I use autodimension all the time.  It is
usually to see what is missing from my sketch.  It does not crash IV for
me.  Are you sure you do not just have a bad part!!

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Caution
to all and "helloooo to Autodesk".

Have not used "Auto Dimension" in
the past, so thought I would give it some use. Guess I found out why I never
used it. It causes Inventor to CRASH. Some kind of memory error.

See
PDF in CF for screen dump.

Regards,

Don A
:-)

[Anonymous]

I too use it regularly.

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"DonA" <djanneken@fuse.net>
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Caution
to all and "helloooo to Autodesk".

Have not used "Auto Dimension" in
the past, so thought I would give it some use. Guess I found out why I never
used it. It causes Inventor to CRASH. Some kind of memory error.

See
PDF in CF for screen dump.

Regards,

Don A
:-)

[Anonymous]

I can't remember ever crashing Auto Dimension. I have hung it up a
couple times (DO NOT run it on sketches with a zillion lines and arcs.)

DonA wrote:

> Caution to all and "helloooo to Autodesk".
>
> Have not used "Auto Dimension" in the past, so thought I would give it
> some use. Guess I found out why I never used it. It causes Inventor to
> CRASH. Some kind of memory error.
>
> See PDF in CF for screen dump.
>
> Regards,
>
> Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

It works OK here.

Steve

"DonA" wrote in message
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> Caution to all and "helloooo to Autodesk".
>
> Have not used "Auto Dimension" in the past, so thought I would give it
some use. Guess I found out why I never used it. It causes Inventor to
CRASH. Some kind of memory error.
>
> See PDF in CF for screen dump.
>
> Regards,
>
> Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

In one of the recent postings, someone mentioned that the Red / White /
Blue color scheme caused problems. I wonder if it might also happen
with your Red / White / Green scheme. Just to satisfy curiosity, try
changing your Windows color scheme to something else, like the Windows
default.

DonA wrote:

> Caution to all and "helloooo to Autodesk".
>
> Have not used "Auto Dimension" in the past, so thought I would give it
> some use. Guess I found out why I never used it. It causes Inventor to
> CRASH. Some kind of memory error.
>
> See PDF in CF for screen dump.
>
> Regards,
>
> Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

This repeatable Don? If so post file sure Adesk would want to see.
Have seen auto dimension try to apply 8000 odd dimensions but only the once,
SeanD also posted a screen dump of something similar I think. Crashing
that's for the makers............

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Laurence,

Power is nothing without Control
---


"DonA" wrote in message
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> Caution to all and "helloooo to Autodesk".
>
> Have not used "Auto Dimension" in the past, so thought I would give it
some use. Guess I found out why I never used it. It causes Inventor to
CRASH. Some kind of memory error.
>
> See PDF in CF for screen dump.
>
> Regards,
>
> Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

Condition is 100% repeatable... at least on my machine.



I will post the part file in CF under "Inventor Crash 01" if some of you "carring souls" care to take a look at it... but at your own peril... it crashes on me every time.



Here is how to do it...


1: Open part


2: Edit "sketch9"


3: Click "autodimension"


4: Click "apply"


5: Click "Done"


6: Click "Return"


CRASH


Why?????


Regards, and THANKS for all the help :-)))))


Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

Redefine the sketch, then project the YZ and XY plane, project the centre
point, add a construction circle to centre point and finish on small circle
centre, constrain small circle centres to construction and XY plane, auto
dim.

Remember that unless you project origin geometry the auto dim will not add
an X & Y dim to origin for you! Leaving two dimensions unapplied.

--
Laurence,

Power is nothing without Control
---


"DonA" wrote in message
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> Condition is 100% repeatable... at least on my machine.
>
> I will post the part file in CF under "Inventor Crash 01" if some of you
"carring souls" care to take a look at it... but at your own peril... it
crashes on me every time.
>
> Here is how to do it...
>
> 1: Open part
>
> 2: Edit "sketch9"
>
> 3: Click "autodimension"
>
> 4: Click "apply"
>
> 5: Click "Done"
>
> 6: Click "Return"
>
> CRASH
>
> Why?????
>
> Regards, and THANKS for all the help :-)))))
>
> Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

Laurence,


Thank you very much for the reply.



I wish that I understood this stuff as well as you. How you and the other Gurus "get" all this... I don't know, but is great you do, so as to help out the dummies like me.



Unfortunately as I am a "dummy" I am not quite clear as to what to do?



Actually I have never used "redefine sketch" before (maybe I should...huh?). I did that and clicked on the upper work surface... is that correct?



But, am not sure what you mean, or how to "project" the "planes", and so on. I thought I did, and tried what I thought was correct, but still crashes.



My ignorance, I am sure. Are there tutorials or such that would help me. (Autodesk Inventor "help" is useless).



Not to use up all your "valuable" time, but a more concise explanation, "might" help my dense brain.



Regards, and truly do appreciate the feedback... at least I know it’s me and not Inventor. We all know Inventor is perfect 😉



Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

Don, silly me and I jumped the gun abit, I can't crash file! I did not even
try in my haste and thought I would simply redefine and dimension up.
Sorry.....I think you need to add the base part which is missing in post and
lets have another look.

--
Laurence,

Power is nothing without Control
---


"DonA" wrote in message
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> Laurence,
>
> Thank you very much for the reply.
>
> I wish that I understood this stuff as well as you. How you and the other
Gurus "get" all this... I don't know, but is great you do, so as to help out
the dummies like me.
>
> Unfortunately as I am a "dummy" I am not quite clear as to what to do?
>
> Actually I have never used "redefine sketch" before (maybe I
should...huh?). I did that and clicked on the upper work surface... is that
correct?
>
> But, am not sure what you mean, or how to "project" the "planes", and so
on. I thought I did, and tried what I thought was correct, but still
crashes.
>
> My ignorance, I am sure. Are there tutorials or such that would help me.
(Autodesk Inventor "help" is useless).
>
> Not to use up all your "valuable" time, but a more concise explanation,
"might" help my dense brain.
>
> Regards, and truly do appreciate the feedback... at least I know it's me
and not Inventor. We all know Inventor is perfect 😉
>
> Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

Laurence,



Interesting you cannot crash it. At first I thought it had something to do with the other files as well, so I did a "copy as" to make it independant of the others, but it still crashed.



Anyway, I will post the entire structure... will add to the the existing "Inventor Crash 01" in CF.



Will be "crashes 02.zip"



Thanks again,



Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

Laurence,



Think I got it.



I created a workplane off the face of the part, "Redefined sketch" to that workplane, then did an "autodimension".



It solved all but 3 dimensions/constraints (but no crash). I then projected the center hole and then did "autodimension" again. Now all dimensions/constraints were solved.



Clicked "return" and NO CRASH! WHY???



I'll never be able to figure it out. In any event your help with "redefine sketch" should help me in the future.



Regards and THANKS!



Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

It appears to me you are still missing parts. It is looking for

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My
Documents\Engineering\Project\Sonnax\Seal Ring RE-0-1\Part - RE-0-1X -
Rev B - As Drawn By PPL Don A.ipt

If you try to use Part - RE-0-1X - Rev B - DERIVED WITH SHRINK - As
Drawn By PPL Don A.ipt it says it is a cyclic dependency.

Are you using pack and go?

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"DonA" wrote in message
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> Laurence,
>
> Interesting you cannot crash it. At first I thought it had something
to do with the other files as well, so I did a "copy as" to make it
independant of the others, but it still crashed.
>
> Anyway, I will post the entire structure... will add to the the
existing "Inventor Crash 01" in CF.
>
> Will be "crashes 02.zip"
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

Oops... for got it. Its there now.



Thanks,



Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

I have not had the autodim crash but it would show
>1000 constraints required for a rectangle.  The sketch doctor wasn't
show a cross but it would find multiple errors too.  The sketch was a
hairs width from going corrupt. Redefining the sketch to a plane or
the original face usually works to alleviate the problem. 

Kathy Johnson

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"DonA" <djanneken@fuse.net>
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Laurence,


Think I got it.

I created a workplane off the face of the
part, "Redefined sketch" to that workplane, then did an "autodimension".


It solved all but 3 dimensions/constraints (but no crash). I then
projected the center hole and then did "autodimension" again. Now all
dimensions/constraints were solved.

Clicked "return" and NO CRASH!
WHY???

I'll never be able to figure it out. In any event your help
with "redefine sketch" should help me in the future.

Regards and
THANKS!

Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

No matter what, IV SHOULD NOT CRASH. If anyone else can repeat his crash ADSK should take a look at the data set. There should be no way to use the mouse to cause a crash unless it is a hardware/driver/OK issue.

[Anonymous]

With this I agree.



I was able to resolve the problem by redefining the sketch.



BUT... "CRASH" should not be the "answer" for a bad sketch and or whatever. Yes... there was an "error" (I guess) however Inventor should recognize it as an "error" and allow me to correct it... with some help from the "Red Cross".



A "CRASH" is not much help.



Thanks to all for the replies. Every day is a learning experience... especially working with Inventor.



Regards,

Don A 🙂

[Anonymous]

I was able to Open it (I think I got the right part?) and edit sketch9. Run Autodim,
apply, done , return without crashing.

As I remember there was no missing dimensions though??

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"DonA" wrote in message news:f17fd50.16@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> With this I agree.
>
> I was able to resolve the problem by redefining the sketch.
>
> BUT... "CRASH" should not be the "answer" for a bad sketch and or whatever. Yes... there
was an "error" (I guess) however Inventor should recognize it as an "error" and allow me
to correct it... with some help from the "Red Cross".
>
> A "CRASH" is not much help.
>
> Thanks to all for the replies. Every day is a learning experience... especially working
with Inventor.
>
> Regards,
> Don A 🙂
>

[Anonymous]

Kent,



If you picked the "Green" part, then you got the right one.



Just curious... what was it that you edited?



When I did a "Redefine" sketch, as suggested by some of the others I was able run "Autodimension" without a CRASH.



Thing is though... should Inventor not recognize these types of errors and give a signal as to what is wrong? Obviously "it" knows something is wrong, otherwise "it" would not have CRASHED.



I guess this is one way to let me know there is an error, but how am I to know who's error it is... mine or inventor?



Engineering time is too valuable to play guessing games. I just want to design... I have enought trouble doing that and do not need to play "guess what CRASHED me now."



Anyway, thanks for your insight, at least in the future when I CRASH it again in another application I will at least have a clue as what to do.



Regards,



Don A 🙂