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Fonts are not clear

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Message 1 of 13
Anonymous
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Fonts are not clear

Why do some fonts show up very faint in IV? Ex. RomanS, our company standard
font. (As well as Ford's) Is there any way to get them to print clearer?
(Exporting to AutoCAD is not an option)

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Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
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Message 2 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dave,

This has been discussed long time ago, and as far as I can remember, it's
because IV uses TTF fonts, but ACAD uses SHX fonts, romans as a SHX doesn't
work in IV. They did some (rather faint, I believe) effort to come close to
the romans font of ACAD, but as you see, the result is pretty poor.

I'm having also problems with this subject, as in our DIN and ISO standards
a romans or isocp like font is defined for technical drawings, but not an
arial!

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Regards,
---
Leo Laimer
Bad Ischl - Austria
Message 3 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

So how do you work around this? Just print in RomanS? Any complaints?

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Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
Message 4 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dave,

Simple:
Not using IV for work that requires strict standards conformity (which,
unfortunately, is about 50%)

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Regards,
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Leo Laimer
Bad Ischl - Austria
Message 5 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

So your solution, and I have had to do this before, is to model the parts in IV,
layout the drawing views, export to AutoCAD, then annotate there? Gosh...sure
hope there are no design changes....

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Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
Message 6 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

No, Dave. I'm using MDT for most of my work, and only take a sneak peek of
IV from time to time to see if things are coming more into my lane.

--
Regards,
---
Leo Laimer
Bad Ischl - Austria
Message 7 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Leo, the right font for DIN/ISO in IV is "isocpeur".
It's like "isocp" but with line weights. It comes with IV.

If you need the original DIN/ISO fonts, have a look at
www.will-software.com/infos/din_iso.htm

> They did some (rather faint, I believe) effort to come close to
> the romans font of ACAD, but as you see, the result is pretty poor.

They didn't do any effort, I guesss: "isocp.ttf" and "romans.ttf" are
AutoCAD fonts. AutoCAD needs them in windows dialogues like
the mtext editor, cause it's not possible to use shx fonts there.
But these fonts are without line weights.

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Michael Puschner
mp@scholle.de




"Leo Laimer" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Dave,
>
> This has been discussed long time ago, and as far as I can remember, it's
> because IV uses TTF fonts, but ACAD uses SHX fonts, romans as a SHX
doesn't
> work in IV. They did some (rather faint, I believe) effort to come close
to
> the romans font of ACAD, but as you see, the result is pretty poor.
>
> I'm having also problems with this subject, as in our DIN and ISO
standards
> a romans or isocp like font is defined for technical drawings, but not an
> arial!
>
> --
> Regards,
> ---
> Leo Laimer
> Bad Ischl - Austria
>
>
Message 8 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

So, does IV have any TTF fonts close to RomanS?

--
Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
Message 9 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dave J wrote:
> Why do some fonts show up very faint in IV? Ex. RomanS, our company standard
> font. (As well as Ford's) Is there any way to get them to print clearer?
> (Exporting to AutoCAD is not an option)
>
> --
> Dave Jacquemotte
> Automation Designer
>
>
>
>

If my memory serves me well, RomanS, graphically, is a single stroke
font. It basically is a single pixel wide on your screen. The Technic
truetype fonts are very close to RomanS & D in the AutoCAD fonts.

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Hal Gwin
Mechanical Designer
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Message 10 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

AFAIK, sorry no!
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Michael Puschner
mp@scholle.de



"Dave J" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> So, does IV have any TTF fonts close to RomanS?
>
> --
> Dave Jacquemotte
> Automation Designer
>
>
>
>
Message 11 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Micheal,

I never notced that this font is there in IV, has it always been so or is
this one new?

It comes closer to what I read in my standards book, although it's still not
quite there.

--
Regards,
---
Leo Laimer
Bad Ischl - Austria
Message 12 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I've found RomanD with Bold on looks a lot like RomanS. I'll see if the other
engineers agree it's close enough.

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Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
Message 13 of 13
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Leo, I don't know when I saw it for the first time, but I use it in my
idw template since IV5. I used the original DIN 6776 font from
Will-Software before. But you have to pay for it and my clients
didn't want to buy it. You allways have to pay for anything that
depends on DIN. But the isocpeur.ttf is as good as the isocp.shx
that replaced the old geniso.shx, I guess. And don't forget, you had
to pay for the DIN stuff in good old genius.
--
Michael Puschner
mp@scholle.de



"Leo Laimer" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:AC2E598E37777AB32B758E049C8067A0@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Micheal,
>
> I never notced that this font is there in IV, has it always been so or is
> this one new?
>
> It comes closer to what I read in my standards book, although it's still
not
> quite there.
>
> --
> Regards,
> ---
> Leo Laimer
> Bad Ischl - Austria
>
>

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