Guess you haven't noticed the perfect robot "orange peel" paint jobs on
those ... what'd you call 'em ... ah: "fancy new cars" going for $30-40K,
eh?
Can't imagine how those poor dealership mechanics are able to make it in
this world of perfect cars. Man ... don't you just feel so sorry for them
standing around twirling their key-chains around their fingers all day; and
on commission too!
I'd be interested to know just exactly what software it is that doesn't have
bugs? All the NGs I've checked out and software I've tried, seem to refute
that notion out of hand.
A workaround is the undocumented way something has to be done at this time.
Semantics, namely workarounds, are merely a way of expressing a wish for a
different method that may be forthcoming in the future, but for now, that's
the way it's done. Doesn't remove the fact that it is doable and as with
everything else it takes as long as it takes (for me, that might be longer
than others but it doesn't change the fact). Always been that way and always
will be that way unless you can think of a way to make something happen
that's not going to happen. It's the way the world is and it doesn't care if
we approve or disapprove. Way I see it, hain't that much to whine about but
more to deal with instead. Have to agree with Ron ... most of the things you
say can't be done: can.
BTW, was that a rant, a sermon or a resume?
~Larry
"Kent boettger" wrote in message
news:D85EFA76362AF2F533DBD5BA0FCF8231@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Pardon me Mr. Ron crain you are some kind of Autodesk developer aren't
you.
>
> I think I heard about you. 2 years ago when I was visiting the Autodesk
> university in Vegas.
>
> I have been working with Autodesk software for the last 13-14 years now.
5-6
> of these I have been working as an engineer developing cranes, and plant
> constructions. Now I make my living working in an IT department as an
inside
> CAD system consultant and supporter of Autodesk products in a global
> company. My daily work is to support all our engineers in the company that
> uses Autodesk software. Controlling the licens servers, teaching the
> engineers who has to use Autodesk software in the company. I have taken
> several courses based on Autodesk software where in some it ended up being
> Me ho was teaching the class and teacher. So don't try to make me look
> foolish because you have another opinion on my posting. You never get old
to
> learn and I don't say I know every think.
>
> A man never gets to old to learn if he does it's because he's dead.
>
> The programs I daily support are AutoCAD LT - AutoCAD - AutoCAD Mechanical
>
> Mechanical Desktop - Inventor 5.3 to 6 - Architectural Desktop Volo view
and
> express.
>
> I have written several programs for these different software packages
> basically with visual basic, made intranet sides with I-drop ( Inventor
> parts ) xml and spinning models based on 3DS max.
>
> Exactly all you can imagine doing and creating with Autodesk software.
>
> I have worked with and tested Inventor since Rel. 1 and it was first
> implemented in the company with release 5.3 I feel sorry for the
companies
> ho implemented inventor before this release it must have cost them a lot
off
> head banging and frustrations to have to wait for Inventor to get to the
> stage were it is now. Don't get this wrong personally I see a great future
> for Autodesk and Inventor you can call me an inventor junkie, because I
> almost use all my free spare time playing around with this software. My
> company direction / manager always tells us " We always have make sure
that
> the company is on the leading edge not the bleeding edge " so my point is
> Autodesk wake up hear and listen to the costumers make the patches as we
> report the errors and not years later as it is shown with my Coil bug that
> still isn't fixt, event that it is more than a year since I reported this
> error.
>
> And Ron the excuse that all software has bugs I don't want to hear, this
is
> too far out.
>
> I am well aware of this but the scary thing is that people like you "no
> effense" are beginning to accept it an using it as an excuse and there by
> saying its ok to sell my company software where the developer didn't take
> the time to check for bugs and fix them before they skip It to the market.
>
>
>
> Imagine you buying this fancy new car and on the way home from there you
> bought the car you have to bye some food to take home to your wife and
> children. You park the car and do the shopping. When you are done shopping
> you leave the store and go to the car to put the stuff you bought in the
> trunk. But now the trunk won't open. Well okay you say to you self there
> must be is a workaround to this problem and you figure out to put the
stuff
> in the bag seed of the car. The next morning you have to drive to work an
> discover you have a flat tier, now what the reserve tier is in the trunk
> Well okay you say to you self, there must be a workaround to this problem
> and you figure out I'll just call a cab doesn't matter that this costs
extra
> money.
>
> You late at work because off your little car accident so you louse money.
On
> work you call for a truck to pick up your fancy new car with this small
bug'
> s to drive it to the garage and get it fixed.
>
> Again this cost you money But okay all cars have small bug's you thing and
> forgives the sales man Ho sold you the car. And okay you have to work
> overtime because you were late at work.
>
> Now after you finished you work, you again call at cab, remember the
little
> workaround for not having you fancy new car up running, and again it costs
> money. You cab arrives and drives you to the garage where they have fixed
> it. Happy you, you drive home " BUT " on the way home you have to get some
> fuel on the car. At the fuel station you can't put fuel on because you
cant
> get the think off where you put the pump in. Okay you think there must be
a
> workaround to this problem.
>
> So you call the garage, they tell you it's a known problem and the
engineers
> ho developed the fancy new car has locked this as a problem and will take
a
> look at this. Okay you think there must be a workaround to this problem
and
> you again call at cab, "remember the little workaround" and again it costs
> your money. As the weeks passes by you still don't have your car running
but
> you remember the engineers had locked the problem and were going to take a
> look at it. So you call the garage again and here the tell you. The
> engineers are using A... Software and there are some miner bugs in this
> software they are waiting to get fixed before they can fix your car
problem.
>
> Okay you say to your self all software have bugs so Ill just wait until
the
> software works and it doesn't matter if it takes the software company a
year
> to fix this bug ill just order a cab every day to get to work and pay for
> that. And again it cost you money.
>
> Because the engineers didn't take the time to test the car before the put
it
> on they marked and sold it to you. And at the end remember your wife and
> children also is depending on this car that isn't working like in the
> industry first comes the engineers then the production then the marketing
> then the sales department then the customer. Take a look on where the
chain
> jumps off in this discussion its in the beginning but okay as I see this
you
> don't care for that. Be glad you are not hired under me Mr. Because then
you
> would be Fired By me Mr.
>
>
>
> And thanks to all the people ho helped with the response I got on my mails
> and didn't tell me that bugs are okay.
>
>
>
> Good night.
>
>
>
> I have to get up early in the morning to do some workarounds on the
"emboss"
> feature in inventor for a technical drafter at work.
>
>
>
> Hope this discussion continuous in a decent way.
>
>
> "Ron Crain" wrote in message
> news:DA0D5545BF6ACA405A49742643E1CB8C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Pardon me Kent, but after reading all your posts in this thread I feel
> that
> > it would be advantageous for you to either have your dealer sit down
next
> to
> > you for a few hours to review a few things or for you to sit through a
> > training course. There ARE bugs with Inventor - just like with any
other
> > program of this complexity - but many of the things you brought up in
this
> > thread have easy workarounds by changing your modeling / detailing
> > techniques.
> >
> > I'm sure I'd have the same outlook as you if I were using another cad
> > software.
> >
> > "Kent boettger" wrote in message
> > news:6FBB7E26F76273E9C9E5CC3F20AA793F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > | I cant keep up with this error reporting now I tried to delete the
> crated
> > | cutting line
> > |
> > | and lucky me. bye bye Inventor.
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > | picture is posted aicv Help
> >
> >
>
>
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