Can sketch geometry be grounded?

[Anonymous]

Seems that what ever dimension I change, the one under-constrained
sketch geometry I DON"T want to move - moves. Maybe this is a good
thing, but are there any rules how IV prioritizes under-constrained
sketch geometry? Last first - most dimensions- proximity to zero -
imported geometry first - lines over arcs?? I'm dimensioning
everything on a part off of a circle, the sketch is an imported dwg. I
plane to coincident the circle to origin, but need to constrain
everything before the move. Even though this circle has 30 dimensions
on it, changing a dimension to an unconstrained line makes the hole
and all other constrained geometry move instead of the lone line. Is
there a way to ground sketch geometry? (without constraints,
obviously) ---------

[Anonymous]

I got a new Mantra for the Autodesk song book.--- Inventer should be
like Autocad.--- Autocad should be like Inventor--- Inventor hopes to
attract the Autocad user base--- And put those other guys in their
place--- So Inventor should cohabitate in the Autodesk rooms--- And
not give them completely opposite wheel zooms. :o)> That said, hey,
Inventor performs to the style I'm used to better than anything else
I've seen, hence everyone agrees it is easier to learn. But if they
had an autocad equivalent of "direct distance entry" while sketching I
probably would not have asked my stupid question.



On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:40:13 -0800, "Larry Caldwell"
rr dot com x> wrote:

>The Inventor Mantra:
>
>Inventor is not AutoCAD!
>
>. Inventor is not based on AutoCAD
>
>. Inventor does not look like AutoCAD
>
>. Inventor does not function like AutoCAD
>
>. Inventor will be offended if you compare it to AutoCAD
>~Larry

[Anonymous]

Haven't ever tested it (never seemed worrisome, I guess), but I think the
first line would move to the second line. IOW the movement would be toward
the line most recently placed.
~Larry

"Diemaker" wrote in message
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> >Larry said:
> >Only time I use the fix constraint is when I slap a line down to use as a
> >place to move geometry that would otherwise pull the line to the geometry
as
> >opposed to the geometry to the line.
> --------- Yes, that is my original question, just trying to understand
> the method of the madness. If you draw 2 separate lines and the only
> constrains between them are parallel, then dimension and modify dim...
> which side moves? I understand the effects of constraints, but if
> there were a simple rule like geometry adjust to the positive side
> then I could dimension to avoid driving a sketch out of whack. But
> it's probably not a simple rule and maybe even random. Or smart enough
> to always adjust the side I don't want to move, just to be awnry.
>
>

[Anonymous]

I see AutoCAD/MDT as cluuunnnkey! iTeam is much to cleaver to make a clunky
program out of Inventor. If I never had to go into AutoCAD again, i'd be too
soon (something like 18 years was too D-much clunk'n already!). Some folks
like clunky I guess.
~Larry



"Diemaker" wrote in message
news:k30nsvcc0415fuasaobdbba5j5o0ktgi4c@4ax.com...
> I got a new Mantra for the Autodesk song book.--- Inventer should be
> like Autocad.--- Autocad should be like Inventor--- Inventor hopes to
> attract the Autocad user base--- And put those other guys in their
> place--- So Inventor should cohabitate in the Autodesk rooms--- And
> not give them completely opposite wheel zooms. :o)> That said, hey,
> Inventor performs to the style I'm used to better than anything else
> I've seen, hence everyone agrees it is easier to learn. But if they
> had an autocad equivalent of "direct distance entry" while sketching I
> probably would not have asked my stupid question.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:40:13 -0800, "Larry Caldwell"
> rr dot com x> wrote:
>
> >The Inventor Mantra:
> >
> >Inventor is not AutoCAD!
> >
> >. Inventor is not based on AutoCAD
> >
> >. Inventor does not look like AutoCAD
> >
> >. Inventor does not function like AutoCAD
> >
> >. Inventor will be offended if you compare it to AutoCAD
> >~Larry
>

[Anonymous]

Oh ... forgot ... AutoCAD has always had the zoom backwards but iTeam fixed
it like it should be in Inventor (roll wheel away from you model moves away
from you ... turn steering wheel to the right the car goes to the
right... ).
~Larry

"Diemaker" wrote in message
news:k30nsvcc0415fuasaobdbba5j5o0ktgi4c@4ax.com...
> I got a new Mantra for the Autodesk song book.--- Inventer should be
> like Autocad.--- Autocad should be like Inventor--- Inventor hopes to
> attract the Autocad user base--- And put those other guys in their
> place--- So Inventor should cohabitate in the Autodesk rooms--- And
> not give them completely opposite wheel zooms. :o)> That said, hey,
> Inventor performs to the style I'm used to better than anything else
> I've seen, hence everyone agrees it is easier to learn. But if they
> had an autocad equivalent of "direct distance entry" while sketching I
> probably would not have asked my stupid question.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 08:40:13 -0800, "Larry Caldwell"
> rr dot com x> wrote:
>
> >The Inventor Mantra:
> >
> >Inventor is not AutoCAD!
> >
> >. Inventor is not based on AutoCAD
> >
> >. Inventor does not look like AutoCAD
> >
> >. Inventor does not function like AutoCAD
> >
> >. Inventor will be offended if you compare it to AutoCAD
> >~Larry
>

[Anonymous]

And all this time, I thought a square was a polygon! Sheesh! ... Shows what
I know!
~Larry

"Diemaker" wrote in message
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> "Square Tool"... I guess that's Larry's unique way of calling the
> polygon tool. I bet he also calls it the pentagon, octagon and
> equilateral triangle tool too. :o)> I guess the "pattern constraint"
> has less user need than even the fix constraint. It's just nice to
> know it's there.

[Anonymous]

no two ways about it, Autocad could use some things from IV. 15 years
for me, my wrist still hurts from hammering the 16 button digitizing
tablet.

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:11:31 -0800, "Larry Caldwell"
rr dot com x> wrote:

>I see AutoCAD/MDT as cluuunnnkey! iTeam is much to cleaver to make a clunky
>program out of Inventor. If I never had to go into AutoCAD again, i'd be too
>soon (something like 18 years was too D-much clunk'n already!). Some folks
>like clunky I guess.
>~Larry

[Anonymous]

I learned to stear a boat with an outboard motor long before I was
allowed to drive. :o)> --------


"Larry Caldwell" wrote:

> ... turn steering wheel to the right the car goes to the
>right... ).
>~Larry

[Anonymous]

Sounds fishy to me. Same for a canoe ... wonder if the original AutoCAD
developers were a bunch of fishermen and Indians.
~Larry

"Diemaker" wrote in message
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> I learned to stear a boat with an outboard motor long before I was
> allowed to drive. :o)> --------
>
>
> "Larry Caldwell" wrote:
>
> > ... turn steering wheel to the right the car goes to the
> >right... ).
> >~Larry
>

[Anonymous]

I think the "original" Autocad developers were living on their yachts
by the time the mouse wheel was invented

[Anonymous]

Ah ... fairly old fishermen and Indians then, I take it.
~Larry

"Diemaker" wrote in message
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> I think the "original" Autocad developers were living on their yachts
> by the time the mouse wheel was invented
>