I wouldn't go near that Radeon 6350 with a barge pole for Inventor use (let alone for professional use where a slow pc can directly impact productivity). It looks like a cheapo entry-level graphics card that's probably fine for Windows and Excel, but will be willing to bet it will struggle with any 3d - I can't even find a benchmark for it (only comment I can find at the moment suggests it's about 30% quicker than the 5450 - which is v v low on benchmarks)....
Personally would stick with Nvidia over ATI/AMD, but have no real evidence to support it. Historically we used to joke about ATI standing for Always Trashes Inventor due to the frequency of problems with their cards and/or drivers with Inventor... I know it's only a jokey comment, but as they say, may a true thing is said in jest. Plus... Nvidia have CUDA which is already supported within Moldflow and Ansys, so if you use FEA or mould-analyis then it will use the Nvidia graphics card to speed any calculations. Whether this CUDA support will increase in future, who knows, but just in case it's almost another reason to go with Nvidia...
With it in mind that the HP system is obviously a cheap build - are you sure the memory can be upgraded to what you want/need in future? i.e. have you already checked the motherboard will accept more than the given 4gb ram. Know it's unlikely but know some laptops have this problem.
As for your "desired" spec:
Dual gpu - Inventor doesn't support SLI or Crossfire so a waste of cash. Personally would look at a GeForce 560Ti, 570 or 580 depending on budget. After a lot of in-house Inventor 2010 and 2011 benchmarking last year, I've since always suggested to go for at least a GeForce GTX 260 with Iv2011 and use a DirectX benchmark table like http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.ht
Hard disk - do you need 1TB local storage? Personally would bin it and get a 120GB SSD - if you need more than 120GB storage than have a traditional hard disk as a second drive alongside the SSD. See Toms Hardware website for recent articles about SSD drives and their benchmarking.
Blu Ray - why??? almost dis-credits the professional nature of the pc as I can't imagine any software going to Blu-Ray (Inventor now supplied on a USB stick), so it seems like it'll only be used for films.
I asked for a quote and this was the reply for my GTX 580 query from the "workstation guys":
"The choice of graphics cards really depends on the level of the drawings your going to be doing on the system.
For General Part and Assembly Design (Typically Fewer than 1,000 Parts) a geforce card can be used. However, if you are doing more Complex Models, Complex Mold Assemblies, and Large Assemblies (Typically More than 1,000 Parts) then the Quadro series of graphics cards are recommended over the geforce cards."
We use quadro 2000 at the moment but as I seen couple of people changed from quadro 2000 to Geforce and the have not noticed any performance/stability issue...so I am bl@@dy confused why these "professionals" still highly recommend Quadros for inventor...
I can't believe nobody has any benchmark or tests or anything comparing Geforce and Quadro...
now we have HP workstation -3.2 Xenon, Quadro 2000, 8 Gb ram, 127Gb Hdd but I am not impressed at all... and the price was way high too (£2000++)
I told my boss that I can get a much better "Workstation" for less money
Overclocked 4.5 GHz i7, 12Gb ram, 120 Gb SSD and 580 GTX (it is available in 3GB version too)
We're an all-HP company (pretty large), and if we want IT support we have to go with what they offer. I really wanted to use the 8200 because it has a nice fast processor, but it only has a 320W power supply, which won't power much of a graphics card. We finally elected to go with the dual Xeon quad core workstation option (Z600), which is quite a bit slower, but ordered a GTX 560 Ti to go with it. So, we'll have good graphics, but slower CPU. The second CPU will never get used, probably, and is a total waste of money, but we're limited on our choices here.
the clock speed on the CPU doesnt neceseraly relate to PC speed
The 2.4 Ghz (12Mb cache 6 core) CPU in the Z600 will outperform the 3.1 Ghz (6Mb cache 4 core) CPU in the 8200.
they arent even in the same class the 8200 is a small formfactor pc, thats why the power sup is so small (i would get this one for admin. not for CAD)
8200 = sporty family sedan
z600 = porche
z800 = lamborgini
myhomemadepc = concorde
My understanding from what I read here is that for Inventor, clock speed is just about the only significant factor in its performance (though SSDs and fast RAM are helpful, too). My 8200 choice is the convertible tower unit, not the small form factor, so there is room for a full size graphics adapter, just not enough power supply for a really good one.
"I can't believe nobody has any benchmark or tests or anything comparing Geforce and Quadro... "
It's just Inventor users comparing their systems.
Clock speed IS extremely important, amount of ram not so much, graphics card not so much either - you can see real life test results here
Have a look at message 2 in that post. An i7 with 24Gb ram, raid, SSD, GTX 590 card and only 2 sec faster than an old overclocked E8400 dual core with 8Gb ram and an FX570 card that gets a bad rating on card reviews.
But, I just built a new machine and have some more interesting results for that model
Old machine at 3.0GHZ - 24 sec, overclocked to 3.4GHZ - 19sec. Extra 0.4GHz gives 5 second improvement. (20%)
New machine- I7 2700k, 16Gb ram (2133Hz), SSD for data, GTX 560 (only because I had one) FX 570 is just as good
3.6 Ghz - 16.5 sec
3.8Ghz - 15.5 sec
4.0 GHz - 14.3 sec
4.2 Ghz - 13.2 sec
0.4GHz gives 2.2 sec improvement (13%)
In the same machine tests with quadro FX570 Vs GTX 560 there was no noticable difference in rebuild speed or model rotation, zoom etc.
IMHO get the fastest ram, and fastest clock speed, then overclock it and watch your temps. (I only bought 16Gb ram because they didnt have an 8Gb kit in that speed)
overal clock speed not so important
clock speed of individual core...some importance
fast read write from your drives (try opening 50,000 part files from a 5400 single drive) important
lotsa fast ram (see if your page file can handle 200,000 instances of 80,000 parts) important
good chipset and mobo with good buslines and no bottlenecks....IMPORTANT(this is the one that most people get wrong)
good pc setup (temp folder and page file isolated to reduce fragmentation etc) important
good pc maintenance (defrag defrag defrag) important
graphics card...looks like pretty much any half decent gaming (directx) card will do
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