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Message 1 of 33
Anonymous
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10+ years

Wanted to get in one last post via NNTP. After more than 10 years it's sad
to think it's going away. I'll reserve judgment on the new web interface
until it's up and running. Fingers crossed (but breath not being held).

See you (maybe) on the flip side.

--
Sean Dotson, PE
www.mcadforums.com
www.ipropwiz.com
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Message 2 of 33
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

feels like 11:30PM, Dec 31st, 1999 around here right about now....
Message 3 of 33
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Probably not very often if anytime here....
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Message 4 of 33
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Don't think I'll go there. I just looked at the web-side interface. It's
awful. On the nntp side, even without OE maximized, I can view 35 threads
at once; enough to see a couple normal day's worth of original posts at a
glance, and the rest (literally thousands of them) are just a quick scroll
down. I can also quickly overview all but the longest threads, seeing the
headers for all nested replies at the same time. I've got 77,000 messages
loaded; enough to quickly search back to May of 2008. On the web side....15
visible, and I have to load another page to get another 15. It's slow,
clunky, a huge waste of screen real estate, doesn't decode attached
pictures, and makes it really hard to see the continuity of any thread.

A screenshot of each, in the same-sized window. It's scary that there are
people in Autodesk who think this represents progress.

Good luck, everyone.

Cheers,
Walt
Message 5 of 33
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ditto... 🙂
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Message 6 of 33
PeteMaxfield
in reply to: Anonymous

Sean, folks,

 

What about RSS? 

 

-Pete 

(let's see what my new sig looks like...) 

 



Peter Maxfield
Message 7 of 33

It has taken me 5 minutes to login, and access the Inventor NG. It took one minute to access this page so that I could post this message.  It would have taken 5 seconds via NNTP. Congratulations Autodesk, you have managed to kill the Golden Calf.

 

As to RSS. I have absolutely no reason to get useless replies cluttering my inbox. I get enough of those already from adobe's site. I can't even get an administrator there to kill the one feed that I foolishly selected.

 

This discussion group has lost all the value it once had.

 

Dennis Jeffrey

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Message 8 of 33
kellings
in reply to: PeteMaxfield

RSS is good for reading, but unless I am wrong, you can't reply via RSS. So NNTP is still a better solution.

Kevin Ellingson
Technical Specialist

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Message 9 of 33
karthur1
in reply to: Anonymous

I had used the newsreader for several years, up until about 3 years ago.  When I moved over to the web based reader, I did not really like it at first... but I have gotten used to it.  I agree with all of the issues that you bring up.  It is nice to be able to scroll thru all the messages.

If you are only seeing 15 or so posts on one page, you can change that.  Go to the "My Settings" link on the upper right.  There  you will find the Preference tab.  Go to the linear layout and you can change the number of posts per page.

One thing that I like over this new web design is the "My Subscriptions" over on the right that shows what messages I am subscribed to.  You had to jump thru hoops to find it in the old version.

They also made it so we could add a signature to our posts.  Another welcomed improvement is that we can now post more than one attachment.  This may not mean much to the NTTP user because they could already do both of them.

 

I remember reading your posts over the years, and I hope we don't loose you over this.  Give the web side a little time, hopefully you will grow to like it.

Message 10 of 33
KentKeller
in reply to: Anonymous

I am trying to keep an open mind, but have to agree with everything Walt said.  I can understand that online forums give better control to the administrators, but I have yet to see one hold a candle to NNTP for user functionality. 

I don't get here as often as I used to, and I just cant see clicking through 15 to 20 pages of posts just to see if any topics peak my interest. These forums have grown so big (of course they may start to shrink now) that even with NNTP it takes a lot of time out of a day to look through all the posts.  I just can't see doubling or tripling that amount of time.

 

Interesting... this is one of the few places I have seen that my built in Firefox spell check doesn't work. 😞

Kent Keller
KWiKMcad

Message 11 of 33
Dennis_Jeffrey
in reply to: karthur1

The subscriptions flag is not working. I've turned off all subscription notifications and I'm still getting them! 

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Message 12 of 33

To be fair, speed is much better on Saturday. However, it still does not match the convenience of NNTP.  I'll give it a fair try, but I hope that when the weekend is over, the speed stays constant. That will be the test.

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Message 13 of 33
mcgyvr
in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

Glad I never used NNTP...sounds like it suckedSmiley Wink



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Message 14 of 33

Peter:

 

On the one hand there's Moore's law that predicts a doubling of CPU power every 18 months.

 

On the other hand we have the people developing web based applications that are somehow supposed to improve our lives yet seem to cut usability in half every 18 months.

 

I just wish the emporer would put on some clothes rather than persuading the masses that he has some.

 

 

Richard

 

IV 2013 Product Design Suite 64 Bit
Win 7 64 bit
Message 15 of 33

OK

 

One question.

 

I replied to Peter Maxsfield way up this list but my reply is at the bottom of the intial post by Sean.  Is this as intended or is there an obscure setting that will correct this?

IV 2013 Product Design Suite 64 Bit
Win 7 64 bit
Message 16 of 33

Next question

 

How do I get back to where the initial posts are?

IV 2013 Product Design Suite 64 Bit
Win 7 64 bit
Message 17 of 33

OK - found that button.

 

I've now spent as much time navigating through one thread as I would have checking all of the new messages.  I'm out of here.

IV 2013 Product Design Suite 64 Bit
Win 7 64 bit
Message 18 of 33
mcgyvr
in reply to: rhinterhoeller

So far this board is a really nice improvement over the previous version..

Good work AutodeskMan Happy 

You can paste without opening a new window. Have sig files so people can finally put in their current version,etc...It actually remembers you when you close a session and come back... And the search tool seems to work just fine...oh and you can hit enter without it doubling the space.



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Message 19 of 33
Dennis_Jeffrey
in reply to: mcgyvr

Sorry, NNTP was like heaven...... this is like..... well you know what....  I'm still getting an email when everyone replies, even though I've turned it off in every are of this site.  This is what sucks...

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Message 20 of 33

Here;s My Settings...

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