weld offsets

[andrewiv]

How come fillet is the only weld you can use with an offset?

[Anonymous]

Hi Andrew,

Is you question the following? In fillet welds, you can specify the offset distance for the Convex, Concave shape resulting in the fillet weld. Why is something similar not there for Groove welds?

This has come up in the past. Currently it dosent support it. If you want to identify certain faces of the groove weld to be different you could use the End Cap Painter tool in the weld environment. Once the tool is up you just pick the faces and you can specify a different color style for those faces.

Or did I misunderstood your question. Thanks.

shekar

[andrewiv]

Sorry, should have been a little clearer. What I want is shown in the picture, a skip weld that is a butt weld. On the opposite side I want the same weld only offset from the shown side. Is there a way to offset the weld symbols on the leader like you can with a fillet?

[andrewiv]

Anyone have any ideas?

[Anonymous]

I think your question is can I do intermittent groove welds. By skip you are referring to intermittent welds. I'm not aware of a direct inventor command to do this.

However, you can try splitting the faces according to the skip that you need. Then do the groove weld between the split face and the other face. You need to split only one faceset though. Does that help? If you could confirm that I got the question right, I will add this to the list. Thanks.

shekar

[andrewiv]

OK, let me try explaining again. Sorry, was using the wrong terminology. I want an intermittant butt weld with a stagger. The picture shows a fillet with a stagger, but you can't make any other weld a stagger weld.

[andrewiv]

Sorry it bleeped out the type of weld, shoud have been square groove weld.

[Travis_j_t]

give me files and ill play around with it

[andrewiv]

Here is a drawing I just threw together to show my point.

[Travis_j_t]

Well i messed around with it but didnt get much figured out. First im assuming your trying to make a no bevel butt weld that has spacing. well i couldnt find out how, i put a chamfer on the sheet and that let me run a fillet weld, if its for a drawing you might be able to use the catipiller command, not sure how it works. Well sorry i couldnt do better.

[andrewiv]

That's OK, thanks for trying. I guess it just can't be done. However, this would be something to possibly add to the wish list for future releases

[Travis_j_t]

because i mostly design weldments and sheetmetal i would have to agree

for bringing it to autodesk attention

[Anonymous]

As of now there is no direct Inventor command to do this. Ok I pulled a picture from the web for intermittent stagger weld for fillets. I think you need someting similar for butt welds. The newsgroup is filtering out the word batt weld and putting ***. Replace the 'a' in batt to 'u'.

I created a fake component to create the groove welds. Understood sizes might be wrong. Then hid the component. This might be useful in the interim? Thanks.

shekar

[Anonymous]

R11 dataset

[andrewiv]

Thanks, but all I really need is just the symbol on the drawing. Since my company doesn't use weldment, we just make assemblies and add weld symbols on the drawing. I would like to start using weldments, but I the man that makes those kind of decisions doesn't like change. We don't even use the content center, which is very frustrating.

[Anonymous]

Please use this. The zip file went bad

[lneufeld]

bump...


did this thread ever go anywhere? What is the reason that stagger function is not available for weld symbols on IDW for certain weld types, such as flare bevel groove weld?

[jyager]

This really needs to be addressed. No reply since 2007?

First I'm strictly speaking about the annotation of welds in an .idw/.dwg...I'm not addressing weldments at all.

I have a piece of formed sheet metal being welded to a flat sheet requiring a staggered/intermittent flare bevel weld. I can't show this weld because Inventor only allows fillet welds to have their symbols staggered in the weld annotation function (from the pulldown directly above the tail note...it's greyed out unless you have fillets selected).

So the functionality is there, but only for one type of weld?

[Stormraven]

This failing continues to be true in Inventor 2015.  Staggered intermittent welds are available only for fillet welds, not any other type of weld.  I continue to hope that Autodesk will improve the functionality.

[j.roebuck]

Bump in 2018, Inventor 2018 also doesn't have this.  It would be a good addition.