return from Crayon Land - rant

[Anonymous]

Just got done working on a title block, hadn't been in that environment for
a year or so. What a (Edited). I'm wondering if the adesk guy that made the
defaults actually used the editing tools supplied or if it came in from
somewhere else. Basically the whole interface is trial and error and major
frustrating.

1. Text box handles won't attach to drawn boundaries? (Am I missing
something, is this possible?)
2. No access to custom properties of parts? (I'm sure this is possible with
VBA, but why not native, or is it just buried somewhere I didn't look?)
3. No way to measure mismatch of border and tblock when they're not right?
(Anybody?) (Guess this is my fault I should have put that odd ball dimension
back after I got done trimming and extending.)
Basically just clunky junk. (Is there a way to use the actual part modeling
sketch environment to create this little beauty?)

Thanks for the tutorial Sean, cause the help is almost worthless (could
almost be used as sales giberish).

The masters of drawing documents should provide better tools than this.
(More underpowered or defective features.) You know if no fetures were
actually added to 8, but everything that is defective or underpowered was
fixxed, we'd have one (Edited) of a design tool.

"I apologize lord..........."

gcooper

[Anonymous]

More:
4. Once the text is stacked up it's almost impossible to select resize,
because you highlight the other surrounding text? (How do you deal with this
one gents?)

gcooper

[Anonymous]

Try going into Tools, Document settings and selecting a custom Property Source IPT. You
should then be able to use custom properties in the Tblock

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Kent
Assistant Moderator
Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program


"gcooper" wrote in message

> 2. No access to custom properties of parts? (I'm sure this is possible with
> VBA, but why not native, or is it just buried somewhere I didn't look?)

[Anonymous]

You did not have to delete the dimensions from your title block. They can
stay forever and they do not show up when using the title block.

Kathy Johnson

"gcooper" wrote in message
news:DC84E3DD759C5C6F289FFA247B9FC1F1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> 3. No way to measure mismatch of border and tblock when they're not right?
> (Anybody?) (Guess this is my fault I should have put that odd ball
dimension
> back after I got done trimming and extending.)
> Basically just clunky junk. (Is there a way to use the actual part
modeling
> sketch environment to create this little beauty?)

[Anonymous]

Text insert point do not connect to existing geometry. You have to zoom
in real close and eye-ball it. Very "Professional", eh?


--
Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
www.autoconcorp.com



"gcooper" wrote in message
news:DC84E3DD759C5C6F289FFA247B9FC1F1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Just got done working on a title block, hadn't been in that environment for
> a year or so. What a (Edited). I'm wondering if the adesk guy that made the
> defaults actually used the editing tools supplied or if it came in from
> somewhere else. Basically the whole interface is trial and error and major
> frustrating.
>
> 1. Text box handles won't attach to drawn boundaries? (Am I missing
> something, is this possible?)
> 2. No access to custom properties of parts? (I'm sure this is possible with
> VBA, but why not native, or is it just buried somewhere I didn't look?)
> 3. No way to measure mismatch of border and tblock when they're not right?
> (Anybody?) (Guess this is my fault I should have put that odd ball dimension
> back after I got done trimming and extending.)
> Basically just clunky junk. (Is there a way to use the actual part modeling
> sketch environment to create this little beauty?)
>
> Thanks for the tutorial Sean, cause the help is almost worthless (could
> almost be used as sales giberish).
>
> The masters of drawing documents should provide better tools than this.
> (More underpowered or defective features.) You know if no fetures were
> actually added to 8, but everything that is defective or underpowered was
> fixxed, we'd have one (Edited) of a design tool.
>
> "I apologize lord..........."
>
> gcooper
>
>

[Anonymous]

Thanks Kent, that soves that problem.

gcooper

"Kent Keller" wrote in message
news:0EC2E8FCA05E0C1F61344A9593702D91@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Try going into Tools, Document settings and selecting a custom Property
Source IPT. You
> should then be able to use custom properties in the Tblock
>
> --
> Kent
> Assistant Moderator
> Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program
>
>
> "gcooper" wrote in message
>
> > 2. No access to custom properties of parts? (I'm sure this is possible
with
> > VBA, but why not native, or is it just buried somewhere I didn't look?)
>
>

[Anonymous]

Removing the dimension was necesary in order to change the layout of the
boundary, I just forgot to put the overall back before I began dimenisioning
the areas for some additional text and the overal got changed.

gcooper

"KJohnson" wrote in message
news:350648B5C351CDE661664D6233E9DC95@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> You did not have to delete the dimensions from your title block. They can
> stay forever and they do not show up when using the title block.
>
> Kathy Johnson
>
> "gcooper" wrote in message
> news:DC84E3DD759C5C6F289FFA247B9FC1F1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > 3. No way to measure mismatch of border and tblock when they're not
right?
> > (Anybody?) (Guess this is my fault I should have put that odd ball
> dimension
> > back after I got done trimming and extending.)
> > Basically just clunky junk. (Is there a way to use the actual part
> modeling
> > sketch environment to create this little beauty?)
>
>

[Anonymous]

Exactly.

gcooper


"Dave Jacquemotte" wrote in message
news:1AEBC32F69BCF16F2A4BF55B6EF4B398@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Text insert point do not connect to existing geometry. You have to
zoom
> in real close and eye-ball it. Very "Professional", eh?
>
>
> --
> Dave Jacquemotte
> Automation Designer
> www.autoconcorp.com
>
>
>
> "gcooper" wrote in message
> news:DC84E3DD759C5C6F289FFA247B9FC1F1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Just got done working on a title block, hadn't been in that environment
for
> > a year or so. What a (Edited). I'm wondering if the adesk guy that made
the
> > defaults actually used the editing tools supplied or if it came in from
> > somewhere else. Basically the whole interface is trial and error and
major
> > frustrating.
> >
> > 1. Text box handles won't attach to drawn boundaries? (Am I missing
> > something, is this possible?)
> > 2. No access to custom properties of parts? (I'm sure this is possible
with
> > VBA, but why not native, or is it just buried somewhere I didn't look?)
> > 3. No way to measure mismatch of border and tblock when they're not
right?
> > (Anybody?) (Guess this is my fault I should have put that odd ball
dimension
> > back after I got done trimming and extending.)
> > Basically just clunky junk. (Is there a way to use the actual part
modeling
> > sketch environment to create this little beauty?)
> >
> > Thanks for the tutorial Sean, cause the help is almost worthless (could
> > almost be used as sales giberish).
> >
> > The masters of drawing documents should provide better tools than this.
> > (More underpowered or defective features.) You know if no fetures were
> > actually added to 8, but everything that is defective or underpowered
was
> > fixxed, we'd have one (Edited) of a design tool.
> >
> > "I apologize lord..........."
> >
> > gcooper
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

I had placed a sketch point at one corner of the paper and fixed it.
Everything in the titleblock was dimensions together until two dimensions
were left. The the whole thing was dimensioned to the point.

Kathy Johnson

"gcooper" wrote in message
news:B701CFF04293BA627EEF442965F0601F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Removing the dimension was necesary in order to change the layout of the
> boundary, I just forgot to put the overall back before I began
dimenisioning
> the areas for some additional text and the overal got changed.
>
> gcooper
>
> "KJohnson" wrote in message
> news:350648B5C351CDE661664D6233E9DC95@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > You did not have to delete the dimensions from your title block. They
can
> > stay forever and they do not show up when using the title block.
> >
> > Kathy Johnson
> >
> > "gcooper" wrote in message
> > news:DC84E3DD759C5C6F289FFA247B9FC1F1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > 3. No way to measure mismatch of border and tblock when they're not
> right?
> > > (Anybody?) (Guess this is my fault I should have put that odd ball
> > dimension
> > > back after I got done trimming and extending.)
> > > Basically just clunky junk. (Is there a way to use the actual part
> > modeling
> > > sketch environment to create this little beauty?)
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

As a further testimonial on how "finished" this whole text alignment issue
is at the moment; if you turn the grid snap on, the text insert point will
snap to the grid but once it is "bumped", all alignment is lost.

This "snap to grid" behavior was actually an ADDED FEATURE sometime back (?)
in the 5-5.3 releases.

Gee, that was a most helpful feature

QBZ

"Dave Jacquemotte" wrote in message
news:1AEBC32F69BCF16F2A4BF55B6EF4B398@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Text insert point do not connect to existing geometry. You have to
zoom
> in real close and eye-ball it. Very "Professional", eh?


> "gcooper" wrote in message
> news:DC84E3DD759C5C6F289FFA247B9FC1F1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...

> > 1. Text box handles won't attach to drawn boundaries? (Am I missing
> > something, is this possible?)

[Anonymous]

Sorry, I replied before I actually tried this. Which .ipt should I choose
and what happens if it is actually an .iam? I have a custom property that I
assign parts that I would like to endup in the tblock. This has got to be
basic functionality and simple?

Thank

gcooper

"Kent Keller" wrote in message
news:0EC2E8FCA05E0C1F61344A9593702D91@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Try going into Tools, Document settings and selecting a custom Property
Source IPT. You
> should then be able to use custom properties in the Tblock
>
> --
> Kent
> Assistant Moderator
> Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program
>
>
> "gcooper" wrote in message
>
> > 2. No access to custom properties of parts? (I'm sure this is possible
with
> > VBA, but why not native, or is it just buried somewhere I didn't look?)
>
>

[Anonymous]

Greg

You should be able to just use any file that contains the custom properties you want.
Going from memory, but I believe I added what I needed to my template file and then used
that as the source. Not sure, but I think you can use a IAM instead.

--
Kent
Assistant Moderator
Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program


"gcooper" wrote in message
news:AA7D11A1F9A6B5D8757D0D6DFFEBC09B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Sorry, I replied before I actually tried this. Which .ipt should I choose
> and what happens if it is actually an .iam? I have a custom property that I
> assign parts that I would like to endup in the tblock. This has got to be
> basic functionality and simple?
>
> Thank
>
> gcooper
>
> "Kent Keller" wrote in message
> news:0EC2E8FCA05E0C1F61344A9593702D91@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Try going into Tools, Document settings and selecting a custom Property
> Source IPT. You
> > should then be able to use custom properties in the Tblock
> >
> > --
> > Kent
> > Assistant Moderator
> > Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program
> >
> >
> > "gcooper" wrote in message
> >
> > > 2. No access to custom properties of parts? (I'm sure this is possible
> with
> > > VBA, but why not native, or is it just buried somewhere I didn't look?)
> >
> >
>
>