positional representation section

[Tobe]

Is there any way to have different positional representations of an assembly, some of which are sectional and some of which are not?

[Tobe]

One more question. I have an overlay view using the abovepositional representations, and I was wondering whether there was a way to designate one view as being in front of another. For example, I would like to hide the lines on the "back view," but only where the "front view" would naturally hide those lines. Any ideas on how to do thisor if this is possible?

[Anonymous]

Hi Tobe,

Each view of a drawing can access alternate Representations (Design-, Positional-, and
Level of Detail Reps).

With regards to overlays, the Base view will always have its line data at the foreground,
however you can use Design Views to assist with making various components invisible, in
the various overlay views.

If you could post an image it would assist with understanding your needs.

Regards,
Pete


wrote in message news:5578833@discussion.autodesk.com...
One more question. I have an overlay view using the abovepositional representations, and
I was wondering whether there was a way to designate one view as being in front of
another. For example, I would like to hide the lines on the "back view," but only where
the "front view" would naturally hide those lines. Any ideas on how to do thisor if this
is possible?

[Tobe]

So what I have right now is four positional representations of this part. It is technically an assembly, an will eventually have more parts, but for my purposes it was easier just to have the one part in an assembly for now.

So there is an overlay view on the left, and an overlay view on the right. The two interior views are the base views, and the two outermost views are the secondary views.

So the first thing I'd like to do is to section the outermost views along their centerplanes so that you can see inside the part.

The other thing I'd like to do is hide the lines on the secondary views, but only where the base view looks like it's in front of the secondary view.

Let me know if this helps, and thanks again.

[Anonymous]

At this time, we do not support overlay section views. This is a technical
limitation, and we hope to provide this functionality in the future.

As far as occlusion of overlay geometry behind primary geometry, that just
simply isn't on our radar. The notion of "hiding" overlay view geometry
behind primary geometry is not something we support, and I'd be reluctant to
provide that functionality without a lot more feedback.

I think, based on what you're describing, that you can accomplish your goals
(sectioning and occlusion) through modeling techniques. I've attached a
sample drawing example and a snapshot of my Inventor session to show how I
got there.

Basically, I just created a dummy (wrapper) assembly and constrained 2
versions of the U-shaped assembly together. Creating a drawing view of that
provides the occlusion functionality. I then derived that assembly into a
part and split the part at the center to achieve the sectioning solution.

Hope that helps,


--
Andrew Faix
Product Designer
Autodesk Inventor


wrote in message news:5579661@discussion.autodesk.com...
So what I have right now is four positional representations of this part.
It is technically an assembly, an will eventually have more parts, but for
my purposes it was easier just to have the one part in an assembly for now.

So there is an overlay view on the left, and an overlay view on the right.
The two interior views are the base views, and the two outermost views are
the secondary views.

So the first thing I'd like to do is to section the outermost views along
their centerplane
s so that you can see inside the part.

The other thing I'd like to do is hide the lines on the secondary views, but
only where the base view looks like it's in front of the secondary view.

Let me know if this helps, and thanks again.

[Tobe]

Andrew,

Thanks for your feedback. Just modeling the part as I want it to appear serves my purpose perfectly. It just hadn't occurred to me to do it all within the modeling environment, because it was several views of the same assembly.
I'm not one to get into an idealistic debate on what functionality should or should not be available. It was my first real foray into positional reps and overlay views I wondered what was available.

Thanks for the ideas.

-Tobe

[Anonymous]

Words cannot describe how refreshing that feedback is 🙂

Good luck,
-Andrew

wrote in message news:5583848@discussion.autodesk.com...
Andrew,

Thanks for your feedback. Just modeling the part as I want it to appear
serves my purpose perfectly. It just hadn't occurred to me to do it all
within the modeling environment, because it was several views of the same
assembly.
I'm not one to get into an idealistic debate on what functionality should or
should not be available. It was my first real foray into positional reps
and overlay views I wondered what was available.

Thanks for the ideas.

-Tobe

[Tobe]

Andrew,

Here's the result I was looking for. It was achieved using only the modeling techniques you described. It worked perfectly, so I'm just posting to thank you and to show you what I was trying to accomplish, which was difficult to describe in words.

Thanks again,
Tobe

[Anonymous]

Ahhh, I see. I had my section cut through the wrong plane.

Looks good!

Cheers,
-Andrew

wrote in message news:5584906@discussion.autodesk.com...
Andrew,

Here's the result I was looking for. It was achieved using only the
modeling techniques you described. It worked perfectly, so I'm just posting
to thank you and to show you what I was trying to accomplish, which was
difficult to describe in words.

Thanks again,
Tobe