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JorisSteurs1246
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I want my part in My library in the content center and It should have one material only and one color as well.

The CC editor has a material guide but that doesn´t let me remove any materials...

using AI 2012 

 

thanks

 

 

Joris

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Message 2 of 15

Hi Joris,

 

Please, try the following.

 

In the CC Editor, select the families where you want to replace the default material with another one, right-click, Material Guide.

 

Meterial guide.png

 

In the following Material Guide wizard, at the second page, select the option “Add Materials as a new family members”

 

Add.png

 

 

In the following page confirm the families selection and specify the custom library where you want to copy them, in case you have not copied yet it in your library.

 

Selection.png

 

 

In the next page, select the material to remove and the one to add.

 

Materials.png

 

In the following pages make the setting according to your preferences and start the process.

 

I hope it helps.

 

Kind regards,

Alessandro



Alessandro Gasso
Fusion 360 – Simulation/Generative Design Adoption Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 3 of 15

I did try this already. The part is just a metal rod that I use with the frame generator and that I want only to be inserted as stainless steel. So this part is already in my custom library .

here is the report I got.

 

Material Guide report 07-Nov-11 9:12:12 PM
Number of families to be processed: 1

100 new rows will be added into each family, approximately 100 new members in total.
The number is calculated based on assumption that selected families contain 100 current members.

Material Guide options:
Add material as:
New material member rows in existing families
Materials to be added / Material Alias:
Stainless Steel / RVS
Material members and families differentiating:
Differentiator: Material Alias
Add as suffix into: File Name, Part Number
Materials to be removed:
ABS Plastic
Acetal Resin, Black
Acetal Resin, White
Alloy Steel
Aluminum-6061
Aluminum-6061-AHC
Brass, Soft Yellow
Bronze, Soft Tin
Carbon Steel
Cast Bronze
Cast Copper
Cast Iron
Cast Steel
Copper
Copper Alloy
Default
Ductile Iron
Galvanized Steel
GFRC (Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete)
Glass
Gold
Gray Iron
High Density Polyethylene
High Impact Polystyrene
LCP Plastic
Lead
Low Density Polyethylene
Malleable Iron
Nickel-Copper Alloy 400
Non-Alloy Steel
Nylon Composite (Nylon, molybdenum disulphide)
Nylon-6/6
PBT Plastic
PC_ABS Plastic
PET Plastic
Phenolic
PMMA Plastic
Polyaryletherketone Resin
Polycarbonate, Clear
Polycarbonate, Smoke
Polypropylene
Polystyrene
Portland Cement Concrete
PPS Plastic
PVC-Piping
PVC-U
Rubber
SAN Plastic
Silicon Nitride
Silicone
Silver
Stainless Steel, 440C
Stainless Steel, Austenitic
Steel
Steel, High Strength Low Alloy
Steel, Mild
Thermoplastic Resin
Titanium
UHMW, Black
UHMW, White
Welded Aluminum-6061
Welded Brass, Soft Yellow
Welded Stainless Steel, 440C
Welded Steel Mild
Wood (Birch)
Wood (Cherry)
Wood (Maple)
Wood (Oak)
Wood (Walnut)
Wrought Copper
Wrought Steel

Material adding process has started.
Processing family regel Stainless Steel:
Members for material Stainless Steel added.
Material Alias column created.
Material Alias column assigned to Material column.
File Name column expression modified.
Part Number column expression modified.
Unable to remove material ABS Plastic
Unable to remove material Acetal Resin, Black
Unable to remove material Acetal Resin, White
Unable to remove material Alloy Steel
Unable to remove material Aluminum-6061
Unable to remove material Aluminum-6061-AHC
Unable to remove material Brass, Soft Yellow
Unable to remove material Bronze, Soft Tin
Unable to remove material Carbon Steel
Unable to remove material Cast Bronze
Unable to remove material Cast Copper
Unable to remove material Cast Iron
Unable to remove material Cast Steel
Unable to remove material Copper
Unable to remove material Copper Alloy
Unable to remove material Default
Unable to remove material Ductile Iron
Unable to remove material Galvanized Steel
Unable to remove material GFRC (Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete)
Unable to remove material Glass
Unable to remove material Gold
Unable to remove material Gray Iron
Unable to remove material High Density Polyethylene
Unable to remove material High Impact Polystyrene
Unable to remove material LCP Plastic
Unable to remove material Lead
Unable to remove material Low Density Polyethylene
Unable to remove material Malleable Iron
Unable to remove material Nickel-Copper Alloy 400
Unable to remove material Non-Alloy Steel
Unable to remove material Nylon Composite (Nylon, molybdenum disulphide)
Unable to remove material Nylon-6/6
Unable to remove material PBT Plastic
Unable to remove material PC_ABS Plastic
Unable to remove material PET Plastic
Unable to remove material Phenolic
Unable to remove material PMMA Plastic
Unable to remove material Polyaryletherketone Resin
Unable to remove material Polycarbonate, Clear
Unable to remove material Polycarbonate, Smoke
Unable to remove material Polypropylene
Unable to remove material Polystyrene
Unable to remove material Portland Cement Concrete
Unable to remove material PPS Plastic
Unable to remove material PVC-Piping
Unable to remove material PVC-U
Unable to remove material Rubber
Unable to remove material SAN Plastic
Unable to remove material Silicon Nitride
Unable to remove material Silicone
Unable to remove material Silver
Unable to remove material Stainless Steel, 440C
Unable to remove material Stainless Steel, Austenitic
Unable to remove material Steel
Unable to remove material Steel, High Strength Low Alloy
Unable to remove material Steel, Mild
Unable to remove material Thermoplastic Resin
Unable to remove material Titanium
Unable to remove material UHMW, Black
Unable to remove material UHMW, White
Unable to remove material Welded Aluminum-6061
Unable to remove material Welded Brass, Soft Yellow
Unable to remove material Welded Stainless Steel, 440C
Unable to remove material Welded Steel Mild
Unable to remove material Wood (Birch)
Unable to remove material Wood (Cherry)
Unable to remove material Wood (Maple)
Unable to remove material Wood (Oak)
Unable to remove material Wood (Walnut)
Unable to remove material Wrought Copper
Unable to remove material Wrought Steel

Material adding process has been finished.

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Message 4 of 15

Please, tell me, for example, the name of one family, the material you want to remove and the material you want to add.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Alessandro



Alessandro Gasso
Fusion 360 – Simulation/Generative Design Adoption Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 5 of 15

Example, make a part, an extruded cylinder, and bring it in the CC as a structural shape.

Next I want to use this cylinder in the frame generater and it can only be inserted as stainless steel with only one possible color assigned to it. The essence of cc parts is that they don´t change , so I want the material to be fixed to this part as well.

makes sence I think Smiley Happy

Message 6 of 15

Well, not really.

 

I didn’t understand you were talking about custom parts published in the Content Center.

 

If this is the case and you cannot get the desired material and color after having published the part in the Content Center, evidently you are following the wrong workflow.

 

In order to avoid further misunderstandings, please share one of these parts before publishing it in the Content Center and tell me the material you want to assign it and get after having published the part and I will show you how to get the desired result.

 

Thanks and regards,

Alessandro



Alessandro Gasso
Fusion 360 – Simulation/Generative Design Adoption Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 7 of 15

File attached. It has the material and color assigned already .  Diameter should be available from 10 -12- 14..........20 mm

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Message 8 of 15

The material assigned to the part you have sent me is Stainless Steel.

Which is the material you want to have once you have published the part in the Content Center?

 

Besides, for having the diameter 10 -12- 14..........20 mm you have to convert this part in an ipart before publishing it.

 

If you are not familiar with the ipart, I suggest you to follow the following tutorials.

 

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=10921207&linkID=9242016

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=10921570&linkID=9242016

 

In particular, the second one will show how to control the material and the color for the ipart.

Then, you can easily transferring these settings when you publish the part in the CC.

 

After that, you can have a look to the following tutorials that explain how to publish you ipart and using it in Frame Generator.

 

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=12193815&linkID=9242016

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=14351277&linkID=9242016

 

Thanks and regards,

Alessandro



Alessandro Gasso
Fusion 360 – Simulation/Generative Design Adoption Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 9 of 15

I tried already by making the Ipart first but than the publisher didn´t show the my lenght parameter any more.
If I published a normal part the lenght parameter was still available for authoring.
I´ ll try again step by step using the tutorial you provided, maybe I skipped or missed something. 
Will come back to it to share my experiences. 

Message 10 of 15

Ok.

 

In the meantime I’ll send you back the part you have sent me.

 

I’ve removed the color override that you have applied for some reason to the extrusion feature.

 

I’ve created the ipart with two diameter values and I’ve set the material to Copper (since I could not get the information from you about the material you want to use instead of Stainless Steel) with the corresponding color.

 

In the ipart table I’ve defined the length column as Custom one. This is in general a common practice for the steel shapes.

 

As you can see from the images below, I can select the length either in the Authoring and the Publishing.

 

Authoring.png

 

mapping.png

 

You can, of course edit the table and apply the material you want with the corresponding color and publish the part.

 

Kind regards,

Alessandro



Alessandro Gasso
Fusion 360 – Simulation/Generative Design Adoption Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 11 of 15

Looks as things stay the same...
Ok, I use your Ipart with material copper, published it to the content center and when inserting the copper rod as a frame member, I still have the option to choose any material I want. This is not good because ( for this case) in my ware house
I have only copper rod. In this picture I insert the rod as galvanized steel, but I don´t have this material so it should not be in my custom CC obviously.

Galv.GIF

 

Also I can still choose any color I want when inserting the copper frame member.

Not good because I want a specific color always and only for copper.
Ok; Now I Use the CC editor to remove all the excesive material styles using the material guide.
I run trough the procces of adding copper and removing all the other materials but inventor is unable to remove any of them.

For removing unused color styles I don´t see any option.

Message 12 of 15

Ok, you initial question is getting more clear.

 

So, if you insert my ipart from the CC, you just have one material and the corresponding color and I think this was answering to your initial question.

 

Instead, when you use it, or, any steel shapes with Frame Generator, selecting the member, the default material is the one set in the Family Table and the color is set to “As Material”.

 

Default.png

 

It is true you can set a different material and color, but, you have to do it deliberately.

 

This behavior is “as design”, because Frame Generator offers the flexibility to apply different materials and colors from the Style library.

 

If this is an issue for you, you can create and use a different Style Library that contains just the materials and colors you want.

 

For doing this, start the Style Library Manager from Start > All Products > Autodesk > Autodesk Inventor 2012 > Tools > Style Library Manager.

 

On the left side, click on Create New Style Library.

 

Style.png

 

Use the settings, for instance, as for the image below.

 

Style2.png

 

Select all the Materials you don’t want and delete them. Do the same with the colors.

 

DelMat.png

 

After that, in your Inventor Project edit the Design Data path and select the new folder created above.

 

 

DD.png

 

Kind regards,

Alessandro



Alessandro Gasso
Fusion 360 – Simulation/Generative Design Adoption Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 13 of 15

Strange that the project file trough the changing of the style Library will decide what materials or going to be used on my standard parts and not the parts themselves. If I understood well its possible though to remove materials from standard bolts and nuts when I move them to my CC library, but not with the parts that I design myself? The problem is that I have parts in the warehouse that are available in 2-3 or more different materials and that I want to make sure that everything I put in an assembly is also available in the warehouse. In my case its about parts that are available in different kinds of wood. I understand the thing about flexibility to aply other materials but this could easily be improved  by giving sort of warning on the frame member insert like " you are about to create and/or place a non standard part". ( maybe a chalenge for the Ilogic geeks that might be reading this)....

Message 14 of 15

I’m not sure I’ve understood your last comment, but I’ll try to give an answer.

 

When you insert a Standard Part from the Content Center, the material is the one you have in the standard part Family Table.

 

PlaceFromCC.png

 

 

FamilyMaterial.png

 

If you insert the same Standard Part (Steel Shape) with the command Insert Frame, by default you get the material from the Family Table and the color is As Material, but, if you want, you can apply a different material or a different color Inventor takes from the Style Library.

 

InsertFrame.png

 

If this is an issue for you, you can create and use a Style Library that contains just the material(s) and the color(s) you want, as I’ve explained in the previous post.

 

This behaviors described are identical if you use a standard part from one of the standard families you install with Inventor or if you are using a custom standard part. That is, a part you have created and published in the CC.

 

Kind regards,

Alessandro



Alessandro Gasso
Fusion 360 – Simulation/Generative Design Adoption Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 15 of 15

Alessandro

Yes Alessandro, I understand the concept of making a a custom style library, and in my previous post I was trying to explain to you my intention of making error free standard parts, in my effort of preventing errors that has happened in my company before.
The problem with the custom style library is that you start of with an empty one and put in materials an colors as you need during designing. The other option is to start with a full library and remove unused styles when finished with the design.
First option is a painfully slow way of design, teh second option is just as good as working with the standard style library and not error free ( you can still select any material you want).

I can conclude that its better to stick with I parts when ever posible because they have a property for material and you can´t change an ipart ( if things are set up well).
Only publish parts to the CC if very sure that they are going to be used in the frame generator and publish every part again with the differrent material instead of selecting material at the point of inserting the frame member.

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