Hi
I am using the Frame Generator to construct steel beams to form a shed.I have questions regarding how best to bolt all the steel together (many assembly files)
1. Is it best to have pre-drilled holes and then use the Bolt Connection to assemble?
2. If the fasteners are saved to the Templates Library does this remain in the model if Inventor is updated to later version....move up from In2013 to In2014?
3. Is there any issues with saving the Bolt,Nut and 2 Washers as a assembly file and insert this assembly when fastening the steel beams together?
4. Is there any issues with using the Rectangle Pattern to place the Bolts,Nuts and Washers....would save me time as well?
Any help appreciated
JS
You've asked a whole host of questions that really depend on how you model.
1. Whether you use BC to make the holes and populate them or whether you model the holes and then place fasteners (or still use the BC) is entirely up to you. They both work and are valid workflows.
2. Not sure about this. I suspect Inventor 2014 will see the files and prompt for migration. I think that when upgrading you lose the saved Template Library but this does not affect the BC or individual fastener parts.
3. No issues. You're just making more library files. And they don't auto-adapt when the thickness of the FG embers change. You may need to have multiple Pos Reps made in each Fastener Assy so that you can drive the thickness.
4. No issues with patterning. But it won't incude the holes made by the BC Accelerator.
I'm not saying not to use bolted connections, but I will tell you that I rarely - very rarely - use them. On a personal level, bolted connections annoy me more than just about any other feature of Inventor other than LOD's. I tend to almost invariably insert the parts from the content center into holes that I've already modeled. It's a little slower, but - again, this is on a personal level - I don't like the way that bolted connections handle updates. It bothers me to always see a lightning bolt next to all but one of my bolted connections.
Rusty
I agree with Rusty as well, since most of my fastners can be patterned, I just insert my fasteners from my library and use the iMate, then Pattern them.
Thank you for opinions.The structure i have formed for this time will not be updated.I placed a Nut,Bolt and Washer from Content Centre and saved as custom.I then created the Nut,Bolt and Washer with correct space as an assembly file.I now just place the NBW assembly where needed for beams created in the f.G...it is a lot quicker then placing individually.....would you see any issues with this technique?
Thanks again
JS
I love bolted connections 🙂
The bolted connection generates an assembly file which is stored in your "Workspace" (or sub-folder) as defined by your project. The fastener files (nuts, bolts, washers etc) are stored in your Content Centre Files folder (also as defined by your project or Application Options).
When you migrate to a new release, you can either migrate your CC files or not - it's up to you. (I would migrate everything.)
You can put as many "fasteners" into the connection as you like - so 2 washers under the bolt head, 2 more after the bolted objects, and a few nuts is fine. the great thing about BC is that you can save the connection design as a "template". Then, depending on the thickness of the connection, BC will automatically select the appropriate length bolt, but still build the correct combination of washers, holes, and/or nuts according to the template.
So far, my preference for patterned BC's is to create the hole pattern in one of the plates (usually as a sketch and hole centres - not feature patterns). When you use BC, select "From existing hole" - pick any of the existing holes - and set the template. It's about 6 clicks. All the holes in all the other plates are drilled, bolt assemblies inserted - all bolts to the appropriate length too. Too easy!
Thanks Peter
I am going to look into the BC further
If i save a assembly file in Inventor 2013 using BC to assemble steel beams and i then open up in say Inventor 2015 at a later date and save as a 2015 version will it still have all the features created by the BC from Inventor 2013...?
Is there any issues with saving the Bolt,Nut and 2 Washers as a assembly file and insert this assembly when fastening the steel beams together.The thickness of the steel for this particular project will not change.
thanks
Biggest issue with using bolt-nut-washer sets in subassemblies is that you'll have a couple extra steps to get them to show up in your BOM as separate parts. It's nothing earth-shattering, just something to be aware of. There's also an issue - and you'll have to decide whether it bothers you or not - of the amount of time it takes to insert your subassembly and constrain it. If you've got a circular bolt pattern on, say, a pipe flange - it'll be okay. You insert the subassembly once, then you can circular-pattern to fill in the rest. If you've got a square flange, or if you've got an oddly-shaped flange, you'll have to insert and constrain all your subassemblies one at a time. Using a bolted connection, or using Insert from Content Center will fill in the rest of the pattern for you automagically.
Rusty
Thanks........
I will use either the BC or CC for inserting NBW......just trying to find best solution
If i insert the NBW`S with either BC or CC in Inventor 2013 assembly file and then open this assembly file in Inventor 2015 will all those NBW still be inserted?
What would happen if i then saved the file to Inventor 2015....
Thanking you