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Tubular trouble

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09-20-2003 09:32 PM
Is it possible to make a from-to tubular extrusion from one tubular to another hitting the outside of the tubes?
There’s the minimum solution thingy but it only works in one direction.
I’m doing a lot of tube work (Off-shore constructions) so any help would be much appreciated.

Best regards

Flemming

LICengineering
DK Denmark
*Keller, Kent
Message 2 of 12 (45 Views)

Re: Tubular trouble

09-21-2003 12:54 AM in reply to: frm
I am not sure I understand where you are having trouble. I am posting a
simple example to customer files where a tube hits two others, and uses
Minimum solution on both.

--
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http://www.MyMcad.com/KWiK/Mcad.htm

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"frm" wrote in message
news:f18c1d2.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Is it possible to make a from-to tubular extrusion from one tubular to
another hitting the outside of the tubes?
> There's the minimum solution thingy but it only works in one
direction.
> I'm doing a lot of tube work (Off-shore constructions) so any help
would be much appreciated.
> Best regards
>
> Flemming
>
> LICengineering
> DK Denmark
>
Contributor frm
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Message 3 of 12 (45 Views)

Re:

09-21-2003 11:30 PM in reply to: frm
Hello Kent
Thank’s for your suggestion.
I was trying to make it work in one operation, see attachment in CF, but maybe that’s not possible?

Regards

Flemming
*Keller, Kent
Message 4 of 12 (45 Views)

Re:

09-22-2003 01:34 AM in reply to: frm
I had never tried doing it like that before.

I have no idea if it is as designed or a fluke or ?? but on your part I edited the feature
and on the More tab I hit the other alternate solution button, and now both ends appear to
be to the minimum solution.

The odd thing is the next time you edit the feature the alternate solution is back to the
original button and if you ok out without making any changes it reverts to going to the
outside on one side. BTW I don't have R6 here so I am using R7 to do this.

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Kent
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"frm" wrote in message news:f18c1d2.1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hello Kent
> Thank's for your suggestion.
> I was trying to make it work in one operation, see attachment in CF, but maybe that's
not possible?
> Regards
>
> Flemming
>
Contributor frm
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Message 5 of 12 (45 Views)

Re:

09-22-2003 04:21 PM in reply to: frm
Morning Kent
I tried editing the tubes and they behave as you said. Weird.
Well maybe I just have to do it the other way. But it’s annoying when you are working on a 60 to 100 meter jacket with a lot of cross bracing. There’s much scrollwork to do in the browser panel :-)
This might be something for the wish list. “Minimum solution both directions”.

Thank’s again

Regards

Flemming
*Yeandle, Laurence
Message 6 of 12 (45 Views)

Re:

09-23-2003 04:37 PM in reply to: frm
This is a bug IMO whatever.
I am afraid I am so rusty on IV that I have even forgot how I made a tubular
model similar to your work albeit on a smaller scale.
But for now you will have to accept a short cut to what ever my method was,
flip normal work plane 1.

Perhaps someone can send this one to Autodesk?

--
Laurence,

Power is nothing without Control
---


"frm" wrote in message news:f18c1d2.3@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Morning Kent
> I tried editing the tubes and they behave as you said. Weird.
> Well maybe I just have to do it the other way. But it's annoying when you
are working on a 60 to 100 meter jacket with a lot of cross bracing. There's
much scrollwork to do in the browser panel :-)
> This might be something for the wish list. "Minimum solution both
directions".
> Thank's again
>
> Regards
>
> Flemming
>
*Ham, Teun
Message 7 of 12 (45 Views)

Re:

09-28-2003 04:19 PM in reply to: frm
Try this:

1) Start new part (middlepipe.ipt)
2) Derive Master.ipt
3) Extrude sketch2 as a surface (both outer pipes)
4) Extrude sketch1 to pipe on left (surface), using minimum solution
5) Extrude sketch1 again to pipe on right (surface), using minimum solution

"Laurence Yeandle" wrote
in message news:29D431FA91E33E1D72448CF37E4E3588@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> This is a bug IMO whatever.
> I am afraid I am so rusty on IV that I have even forgot how I made a
tubular
> model similar to your work albeit on a smaller scale.
> But for now you will have to accept a short cut to what ever my method
was,
> flip normal work plane 1.
>
> Perhaps someone can send this one to Autodesk?
>
> --
> Laurence,
>
> Power is nothing without Control
> ---
>
>
> "frm" wrote in message news:f18c1d2.3@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Morning Kent
> > I tried editing the tubes and they behave as you said. Weird.
> > Well maybe I just have to do it the other way. But it's annoying when
you
> are working on a 60 to 100 meter jacket with a lot of cross bracing.
There's
> much scrollwork to do in the browser panel :-)
> > This might be something for the wish list. "Minimum solution both
> directions".
> > Thank's again
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Flemming
> >
>
>
*Ham, Teun
Message 8 of 12 (45 Views)

Re:

09-29-2003 05:52 AM in reply to: frm
I have placed an example in IVCF

"Teun Ham" schreef in bericht
news:1B79D27A2D9590B7E1986716D0414BE8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Try this:
>
> 1) Start new part (middlepipe.ipt)
> 2) Derive Master.ipt
> 3) Extrude sketch2 as a surface (both outer pipes)
> 4) Extrude sketch1 to pipe on left (surface), using minimum solution
> 5) Extrude sketch1 again to pipe on right (surface), using minimum
solution
>
> "Laurence Yeandle" wrote
> in message news:29D431FA91E33E1D72448CF37E4E3588@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > This is a bug IMO whatever.
> > I am afraid I am so rusty on IV that I have even forgot how I made a
> tubular
> > model similar to your work albeit on a smaller scale.
> > But for now you will have to accept a short cut to what ever my method
> was,
> > flip normal work plane 1.
> >
> > Perhaps someone can send this one to Autodesk?
> >
> > --
> > Laurence,
> >
> > Power is nothing without Control
> > ---
> >
> >
> > "frm" wrote in message
news:f18c1d2.3@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Morning Kent
> > > I tried editing the tubes and they behave as you said. Weird.
> > > Well maybe I just have to do it the other way. But it's annoying when
> you
> > are working on a 60 to 100 meter jacket with a lot of cross bracing.
> There's
> > much scrollwork to do in the browser panel :-)
> > > This might be something for the wish list. "Minimum solution both
> > directions".
> > > Thank's again
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Flemming
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Keller, Kent
Message 9 of 12 (45 Views)

Re:

09-29-2003 06:01 AM in reply to: frm
Teun

I posted a similar solution on 09/21 but the point is valid that it should be able to do
minimum solution both directions.

--
Kent
Assistant Moderator
Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program


"Teun Ham" wrote in message
news:650A49868D409BB401E86C2F2368BBDC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I have placed an example in IVCF
>
> "Teun Ham" schreef in bericht
> news:1B79D27A2D9590B7E1986716D0414BE8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Try this:
> >
> > 1) Start new part (middlepipe.ipt)
> > 2) Derive Master.ipt
> > 3) Extrude sketch2 as a surface (both outer pipes)
> > 4) Extrude sketch1 to pipe on left (surface), using minimum solution
> > 5) Extrude sketch1 again to pipe on right (surface), using minimum
> solution
*Ham, Teun
Message 10 of 12 (45 Views)

Re:

09-29-2003 06:05 AM in reply to: frm
Yes, I agree. And it is me who posted a similar solution, not you :-D

I only wanted to show that you can achief the same thing with only 1 derived
master sketch (or skeleton part as I would call it).
Deriving too many parts can cause problems (just like linking two different
cells of the same excel spreadsheets to one part).
I try to stick to only one derived component per part.


"Kent Keller" schreef in bericht
news:798E9B01A6DD5841965F33B5E661F5B8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Teun
>
> I posted a similar solution on 09/21 but the point is valid that it should
be able to do
> minimum solution both directions.
>
> --
> Kent
> Assistant Moderator
> Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program
>
>
> "Teun Ham" wrote in message
> news:650A49868D409BB401E86C2F2368BBDC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I have placed an example in IVCF
> >
> > "Teun Ham" schreef in bericht
> > news:1B79D27A2D9590B7E1986716D0414BE8@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Try this:
> > >
> > > 1) Start new part (middlepipe.ipt)
> > > 2) Derive Master.ipt
> > > 3) Extrude sketch2 as a surface (both outer pipes)
> > > 4) Extrude sketch1 to pipe on left (surface), using minimum solution
> > > 5) Extrude sketch1 again to pipe on right (surface), using minimum
> > solution
>
>
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