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cariley
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Registered: ‎07-31-2007
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Sheet size different in AutoCAD and Inventor

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10-01-2007 09:31 AM
I created a model in Inventor 2008 and created an Inventor 2008 dwg file with various views. I then went into AutoCAD 2008 and added several blocks to the dwg. For the past week, I have been opening the dwg file in Inventor and AutoCAD with no problems. Now when I open the dwg in Inventor, it has the wrong sheet size. Here's the weird part. When I open the dwg in AutoCAD, it has the right sheet size. This happens even when I have the dwg open in Inventor first and AutoCAD tells me it is a read only file. Is this a bug? Appreciate any help I can get on this.
*Robert McMillan \(Autodesk\)
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Re: Sheet size different in AutoCAD and Inventor

10-02-2007 06:01 AM in reply to: cariley
This may be a bug. Can you post the .dwg file so I can look at it? If you
want to delete your proprietary info that's fine, but make sure the problem
is still reproducible with the simplified.dwg file. Its possible that just
by modifying the .dwg you will cause Inventor to resynchronize on the next
open, correcting the problem.

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Robert McMillan
Autodesk Inventor Developer


wrote in message news:5736868@discussion.autodesk.com...
I created a model in Inventor 2008 and created an Inventor 2008 dwg file
with various views. I then went into AutoCAD 2008 and added several blocks
to the dwg. For the past week, I have been opening the dwg file in Inventor
and AutoCAD with no problems. Now when I open the dwg in Inventor, it has
the wrong sheet size. Here's the weird part. When I open the dwg in
AutoCAD, it has the right sheet size. This happens even when I have the dwg
open in Inventor first and AutoCAD tells me it is a read only file. Is this
a bug? Appreciate any help I can get on this.
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cariley
Posts: 32
Registered: ‎07-31-2007
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Re: Sheet size different in AutoCAD and Inventor

10-02-2007 01:38 PM in reply to: cariley
Robert
You may be right about resynchronizing the .dwg. I cannot reproduce the problem.

Thanks for replying.
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golub1
Posts: 74
Registered: ‎07-23-2007
Message 4 of 7 (135 Views)

Re: Sheet size different in AutoCAD and Inventor

10-02-2007 05:47 PM in reply to: cariley
I haven't gotten around to learning how to set up a smart Inventor type border, so thus far I've just been using my old Autocad titleblock... after turning everything to black and actually setting line widths instead of using my old pen settings that I developed about 1994. Man its hard to kick old habits, isn't it?

Anyways, it seems to be working great, except that Inventor doesn't want to center the title block on the paper size... as a work around I'm creating my details in Inventor and then opening in AutoCAD to do the actual plotting, which allows me to center the extents on the papersize...

Anyways, my point is that when I re-open the dwg in Inventor it offsets the titleblock again, and when I re-open in AutoCAD, I have to reset my plot manager settings in AutoCAD. This seems a bit odd, but overall it still amazes me how well the two programs interchange data.

Cheers,
Shawn Fitzpatrick
Inventor Noob... but learning :smileyhappy:
*Robert McMillan \(Autodesk\)
Message 5 of 7 (135 Views)

Re: Sheet size different in AutoCAD and Inventor

10-03-2007 06:04 AM in reply to: cariley
A couple of things:

1. Instead of making things black you can use the black/white or Index color
7 in AutoCAD and this will be respected in Inventor. Inventor can set an
"Automatic" color in the color dialog which amounts to the same thing.

2. Do you have SP1 installed? There may have been a bug fix for an issue
such as you are describing.

The only time anything should shift is when you initially save an .idw to
.dwg and set your plot device in AutoCAD. This will offset your Inventor
geometry by the size of the device's printable margins, because AutoCAD is
redefining the origin. If you save the .dwg and open in Inventor, we will
automatically compensate for this, and if you save again (from Inventor) we
will maintain the mapping from then on. Perhaps the problem is your are not
saving the .dwg from AutoCAD after you configure your plot settings?

If you are running SP1 and you can reproduce the shifting title block,
please post the file and the exact set of steps, and we will investigate.

If you are able to get an Inventor .dwg with your title block that's not
shifting, use this as your template for creating new Inventor drawings, this
should work much better with respect to plotting.

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Robert McMillan
Autodesk Inventor Developer


wrote in message news:5738686@discussion.autodesk.com...
I haven't gotten around to learning how to set up a smart Inventor type
border, so thus far I've just been using my old Autocad titleblock... after
turning everything to black and actually setting line widths instead of
using my old pen settings that I developed about 1994. Man its hard to kick
old habits, isn't it?

Anyways, it seems to be working great, except that Inventor doesn't want to
center the title block on the paper size... as a work around I'm creating my
details in Inventor and then opening in AutoCAD to do the actual plotting,
which allows me to center the extents on the papersize...

Anyways, my point is that when I re-open the dwg in Inventor it offsets the
titleblock again, and when I re-open in AutoCAD, I have to reset my plot
manager settings in AutoCAD. This seems a bit odd, but overall it still
amazes me how well the two programs interchange data.

Cheers,
Shawn Fitzpatrick
Inventor Noob... but learning :smileyhappy:
*Dennis Jeffrey
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Re: Sheet size different in AutoCAD and Inventor

10-03-2007 06:12 AM in reply to: cariley
I'm covering that subject tomorrow night in class.... )

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wrote in message news:5738686@discussion.autodesk.com...
I haven't gotten around to learning how to set up a smart Inventor type
border, so thus far I've just been using my old Autocad titleblock... after
turning everything to black and actually setting line widths instead of
using my old pen settings that I developed about 1994. Man its hard to kick
old habits, isn't it?

Anyways, it seems to be working great, except that Inventor doesn't want to
center the title block on the paper size... as a work around I'm creating my
details in Inventor and then opening in AutoCAD to do the actual plotting,
which allows me to center the extents on the papersize...

Anyways, my point is that when I re-open the dwg in Inventor it offsets the
titleblock again, and when I re-open in AutoCAD, I have to reset my plot
manager settings in AutoCAD. This seems a bit odd, but overall it still
amazes me how well the two programs interchange data.

Cheers,
Shawn Fitzpatrick
Inventor Noob... but learning :smileyhappy:
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golub1
Posts: 74
Registered: ‎07-23-2007
Message 7 of 7 (135 Views)

Re: Sheet size different in AutoCAD and Inventor

10-03-2007 06:38 AM in reply to: cariley
Ha, guess we will get it sorted out today then! LOL

Thanks Dennis.

Shawn

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