Inventor for Linux?

[Anonymous]

Just wondering, anyone think we may ever see a version of Inventor for
linux?

I personally have switched virtually everything I do over to Linux
with the release of Vista which I simply refuse to install on any
computer.

Thoughts? 😃

[Anonymous]

I seriously doubt AD will EVER release Inventor on Linux. They are
too dependent on MS programming objects and classes to make the
switch. If you are serious about cad on Linux, you'll have to
settle for either Pro/E or Unigraphics. There may be others
available (open source or otherwise), but I am not aware of
them at this point.

Stephan Rose wrote:
> Just wondering, anyone think we may ever see a version of Inventor for
> linux?
>
> I personally have switched virtually everything I do over to Linux
> with the release of Vista which I simply refuse to install on any
> computer.
>
> Thoughts? 😃

[Anonymous]

il giorno 28/02/2007 15.41 Stephan Rose ha scritto:
> Just wondering, anyone think we may ever see a version of Inventor for
> linux?
> [...]
> Thoughts? 😃

Maybe Wine could be able to do something.
But Inventor seems to be deeply connected to MS (i.e. MS Office,
Internet Explorer required).

M.

[Anonymous]

I'd be willing to bet that over 50% percent of
the time Inventor crashes, it's due to an OS problem.  A structure is only
as stable as its foundation.  I would LOVE to see Inventor ported to *nix,
but as others have already said, it'll probably never happen.  What a
shame.

Maybe Wine could be able to do
something.

I've tried it.  It's not
pretty.

brian r.
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[Anonymous]

You just haven't tried enought wine
then.

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I'd be willing to bet that over 50% percent of
the time Inventor crashes, it's due to an OS problem.  A structure is
only as stable as its foundation.  I would LOVE to see Inventor ported to
*nix, but as others have already said, it'll probably never happen.  What
a shame.

Maybe Wine could be able to do
something.

I've tried it.  It's not
pretty.

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[Anonymous]

If they would have named the Windows
emulator "Beer" instead of "Wine" it probably would have worked.

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[Anonymous]

That's true.
I was exploring this possibility a time ago (as non professional
person). Somehow they have to substitute the MS Office with OpenOffice,
VBA with Java, Internet Explorer with FireFox and maybe it will work.
But then you'll end up with new product and this can upset Microsoft...

In regards to OpenOffice:
Right now you can open and save xls file with OpenOffice and Inventor
will not notify it.

In regards to Java:
"Programming Tools and Setup
Using the COM Automation interface in Autodesk Inventor, you can build
applications with a variety of programming technologies and
environments, including Microsoft Visual C++®, VB, Delphi, and Java.
Autodesk Inventor includes Microsoft’s VBA, the most popular programming
environment in the world."

I don't know how they come up with last sentence...

If you do some search, probably you'll find the open source projects like:

Blender (is the open source, cross platform suite of tools for 3D
creation...)
www.blender.org

FreeCad
(is an OpenSource CAD/CAE, based on OpenCasCade, QT and Python. It
features some key concepts like Macro recording, Workbenches, ability to
run as a ...)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/free-cad/

Open Cascade
(Open CASCADE Technology is software development platform freely
available in open source. It includes components for 3D surface and
solid modeling, visualization, data exchange and rapid application
development)
http://www.opencascade.org/

and many others. To me it looks there are many sources, "just" put them
together, coordinate and keep them running. As I mentioned at the
beginning I don't have a brain of "a developer", so this word "Just" is
big unknown for me... 🙂



Bob S. wrote:
> I seriously doubt AD will EVER release Inventor on Linux. They are
> too dependent on MS programming objects and classes to make the
> switch. If you are serious about cad on Linux, you'll have to
> settle for either Pro/E or Unigraphics. There may be others
> available (open source or otherwise), but I am not aware of
> them at this point.
>
> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> Just wondering, anyone think we may ever see a version of Inventor for
>> linux?
>>
>> I personally have switched virtually everything I do over to Linux
>> with the release of Vista which I simply refuse to install on any
>> computer.
>>
>> Thoughts? 😃

[Anonymous]

il giorno 28/02/2007 20.12 brian r. iwaskewycz ha scritto:

> If they would have named the Windows emulator "Beer" instead of "Wine"
> it probably would have worked.

WINE = Wine Is Not an Emulator

M.

[Anonymous]

il giorno 01/03/2007 2.54 Marco_INW11 ha scritto:

> That's true.
> I was exploring this possibility a time ago (as non professional
> person). Somehow they have to substitute the MS Office with OpenOffice,
> VBA with Java, Internet Explorer with FireFox and maybe it will work.
> But then you'll end up with new product and this can upset Microsoft...
>
> In regards to OpenOffice:
> Right now you can open and save xls file with OpenOffice and Inventor
> will not notify it.

I use Firefox since 2002, version 0.2 (build 20021001, code name Santa
Cruz), it was named "Phoenix" (then changed in "Firebird" since 0.6
and then definitively "Firefox"). I liked having the same software
running both on Windows (ad work) and on Linux (at home).
Then I started using Thunderbird, OpenOffice, Gimp, etc...

> If you do some search, probably you'll find the open source projects like:
>
> Blender
> [...]
> FreeCad
> [...]
> Open Cascade
> [...]
> and many others. To me it looks there are many sources, "just" put them
> together, coordinate and keep them running. As I mentioned at the
> beginning I don't have a brain of "a developer", so this word "Just" is
> big unknown for me... 🙂

I only know (a little) Blender: i used STL parts exported from
Inventor to be rendered. (See attachment test image) It's a powerful
tool, but lacks in modeling and in geometry description of models, IMHO.

There was a project named "blendercad", but it seems to be sleeping.

No problem: my CAD experience started with SolidEdge and now continue
with Inventor. I never used to cry for missing tools, I always worked
to improve my ability in using existing ones.


M.

[willh]

Stephan;

Pro/E Wildfire 4.0 will not be supported on Linux anymore, that's stated on PTC's website. I think they've dropped it with v3.0 already (?)

NX 4 only runs on SUSE, and is rather expensive...

SolidWorks / Solid Ege / Inentor on Linux? You have a better chance to win the lottery.

Now, why not try VariCAD? It does solid modelling, auto 2D generation from 3D model and auto-update after changes to the model (a very recent and welcome addition), BOM's, really all the stuff you need for mech. engineering. It has some 'parametric' ability, extrusions are, for example, 'drawing' driven, and if you edit it the solid will update, but it's not like, say SolidWorks', sketch driven methods if you're used to that.

I run VariCAD at home on Kubuntu 6.06 without any problems. I've opened some large SolidWorks models from work (in STEP format, about 50MB) without a single problem, and we do complex mechanical machines at work (winches for example).

And here's the weird thing: VariCAD loads the STEP model faster (+/- 5 times) than SolidWorks (using SW's *own* format, i.e., I open the original SolidWorks assembly file) on the same machine! How's that hey? I did this before I bought VariCAD, I was concerned about performance for truly large models seeing that VariCAD stores solids and drawings in one file, but no problems! Not a Debian/Ubuntu fan? They have RPM's too. Did I mention excellent service? No, I'm not employed by them :-), just happy with the product, and you'll be surprised to see how affordable it is...

Hope you come right!

[Cschmidt]

Depends on how much of the coding was written in .NET or not. I could actually see there being a Linux version at some point in time in the future but not now. Since .NET is like Java it's my understanding it is not OS dependant.

[Anonymous]

But also like Java, .Net needs a runtime system for each OS
it runs on. You cannot run a java runtime on Unix using MS's
java runtime.

Cschmidt wrote:
> Depends on how much of the coding was written in .NET or not. I could actually see there being a Linux version at some point in time in the future but not now. Since .NET is like Java it's my understanding it is not OS dependant.

[Anonymous]

Bob S. writes:

> But also like Java, .Net needs a runtime system for each OS
> it runs on. You cannot run a java runtime on Unix using MS's
> java runtime.

There are two implementations of .NET for Linux available.

- Mono (http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page)
- DotGNU (http://dotgnu.org/)

I have never used either of them myself. So I don't know wether there
are any problems with using them.

Matthias

[Cschmidt]

It wouldn't surpries me to see micro$oft offer a Linux and Mac version of .NET before too long. I think .NET lends itself too this flexibility but it's only a guess on my part.

[Anonymous]

MS? Not going to happen..... 🙂

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It wouldn't surpries me to see micro$oft offer a Linux and Mac version of
.NET before too long. I think .NET lends itself too this flexibility but
it's only a guess on my part.

[Simon Kursa]

But Microsoft is satan to begin with so it's ok to upset it.......

[Anonymous]

il giorno 13/03/2007 18.21 Cschmidt ha scritto:
> It wouldn't surpries me to see micro$oft offer a Linux and Mac
> version of .NET before too long. I think .NET lends itself too
> this flexibility but it's only a guess on my part.

Microsoft doesn't offer anything.
Mono is an Open Source implementation of .NET platform, such as Linux
is an Open Source implementation of Unix standards.

M.

[Anonymous]

Cschmidt <> writes:

> It wouldn't surpries me to see micro$oft offer a Linux and Mac version
> of .NET before too long. I think .NET lends itself too this
> flexibility but it's only a guess on my part.

I would be very surprised. It was not that long ago that according to
Microsoft Linux and Open Source was evil and the biggest danger to
intellectual property and the whole IT industry.

Matthias

[Anonymous]

In case anyone is interested, AUGI's current top 10 Wish list voting
includes a Misc entry at the bottom for Inventor under Linux. I
personally specified that as my #1 choice, which gives it 10 votes.
So vote away!

;-)

Stephan Rose wrote:

[hallstevenson]

I saw that and really, really hope that people don't waste votes on something like that which will NEVER happen.