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Inventor 8 balloon problems

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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 04:09 AM
‎11-24-2003 04:09 AM

Inventor 8 balloon problems

I found that in 8 if I balloon an assembly, selecting first level
components. When I balloon a subassembly within the main assembly the
balloon number will not show. We use a custom property balloon, and the top
level part has an item number assigned to it. The balloon will not show the
item number, if I assign the item number to a part in the assembly and
balloon that part the item number will show. Inventor is treating my
sub-assemblies as "only parts" but I selected "first level components". Is
this a bug, or am I missing something.

Matt
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 04:21 AM
‎11-24-2003 04:21 AM

This has been so... at least in IV7 it was.

Dave

"Matt Luedke" wrote in message
news:45348DFBF414B8743B93BFE4935356A4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I found that in 8 if I balloon an assembly, selecting first level
> components. When I balloon a subassembly within the main assembly the
> balloon number will not show. We use a custom property balloon, and the
top
> level part has an item number assigned to it. The balloon will not show
the
> item number, if I assign the item number to a part in the assembly and
> balloon that part the item number will show. Inventor is treating my
> sub-assemblies as "only parts" but I selected "first level components". Is
> this a bug, or am I missing something.
>
> Matt
>
>
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 04:27 AM
‎11-24-2003 04:27 AM

Never had that problem in 7 worked fine

"David Radlin" wrote in message
news:D7DA8B67F04BA9F8D3F2139974B08631@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> This has been so... at least in IV7 it was.
>
> Dave
>
> "Matt Luedke" wrote in message
> news:45348DFBF414B8743B93BFE4935356A4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I found that in 8 if I balloon an assembly, selecting first level
> > components. When I balloon a subassembly within the main assembly the
> > balloon number will not show. We use a custom property balloon, and the
> top
> > level part has an item number assigned to it. The balloon will not show
> the
> > item number, if I assign the item number to a part in the assembly and
> > balloon that part the item number will show. Inventor is treating my
> > sub-assemblies as "only parts" but I selected "first level components".
Is
> > this a bug, or am I missing something.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
>
>
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 04:29 AM
‎11-24-2003 04:29 AM

hmmmm.....?

"Matt Luedke" wrote in message
news:66B6C88F7D8596C960B571EDCA9CBDDA@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Never had that problem in 7 worked fine
>
> "David Radlin" wrote in message
> news:D7DA8B67F04BA9F8D3F2139974B08631@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > This has been so... at least in IV7 it was.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Matt Luedke" wrote in message
> > news:45348DFBF414B8743B93BFE4935356A4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > I found that in 8 if I balloon an assembly, selecting first level
> > > components. When I balloon a subassembly within the main assembly the
> > > balloon number will not show. We use a custom property balloon, and
the
> > top
> > > level part has an item number assigned to it. The balloon will not
show
> > the
> > > item number, if I assign the item number to a part in the assembly and
> > > balloon that part the item number will show. Inventor is treating my
> > > sub-assemblies as "only parts" but I selected "first level
components".
> Is
> > > this a bug, or am I missing something.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 04:34 AM
‎11-24-2003 04:34 AM

What does your parts list in the drawing show. Can you expand the one sub?
Do the components of the sub show up under the top level? I have had the
same problem if I have renamed a sub in DA.

Kathy Johnson
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 04:45 AM
‎11-24-2003 04:45 AM

Yes it shows in the parts list, but not in the balloon

"KJohnson" wrote in message
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> What does your parts list in the drawing show. Can you expand the one
sub?
> Do the components of the sub show up under the top level? I have had the
> same problem if I have renamed a sub in DA.
>
> Kathy Johnson
>
>
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 04:47 AM
‎11-24-2003 04:47 AM

Can you expand the sub in the parts list?

Do the sub's parts show up under the top level? No 8.1 etc?

Kathy Johnson
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 05:08 AM
‎11-24-2003 05:08 AM

Yes

"KJohnson" wrote in message
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> Can you expand the sub in the parts list?
>
> Do the sub's parts show up under the top level? No 8.1 etc?
>
> Kathy Johnson
>
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 05:17 AM
‎11-24-2003 05:17 AM

I've seen this behavior before. I think an ipn has always been parked between the idw and iam in those cases. Things just get out of sink and act goofy. Some subs will be fine and others will act this way. I just had to resort to using a sketched symbol for the balloon.
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 05:26 AM
‎11-24-2003 05:26 AM

I'm seeing the same behavior in 7 & 8.

I have a sketch symbol that has a property field in it that references a
model custom property field. When I insert the sketch symbol as a callout
it extracts the lowest level custom property field of the selected.... not a
problem if it is an ipt, but if selected is an iam and its the iam itself
that you want to balloon then you can't extract its custom property field.

Is this what you are describing?

Dave


"David Radlin" wrote in message
news:BCFF2A4C067D559ADF43C59EC81AB3F3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> hmmmm.....?
>
> "Matt Luedke" wrote in message
> news:66B6C88F7D8596C960B571EDCA9CBDDA@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Never had that problem in 7 worked fine
> >
> > "David Radlin" wrote in message
> > news:D7DA8B67F04BA9F8D3F2139974B08631@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > This has been so... at least in IV7 it was.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Matt Luedke" wrote in message
> > > news:45348DFBF414B8743B93BFE4935356A4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > I found that in 8 if I balloon an assembly, selecting first level
> > > > components. When I balloon a subassembly within the main assembly
the
> > > > balloon number will not show. We use a custom property balloon, and
> the
> > > top
> > > > level part has an item number assigned to it. The balloon will not
> show
> > > the
> > > > item number, if I assign the item number to a part in the assembly
and
> > > > balloon that part the item number will show. Inventor is treating my
> > > > sub-assemblies as "only parts" but I selected "first level
> components".
> > Is
> > > > this a bug, or am I missing something.
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Message 11 of 12
Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 05:36 AM
‎11-24-2003 05:36 AM

Right, it is not getting the property from the iam, instead it gets the
property from the part that the leader is touching (and that part doesn't
have the custom field)


"David Radlin" wrote in message
news:E0F89CDF9BA392A81C5F9B7CB314FCFE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I'm seeing the same behavior in 7 & 8.
>
> I have a sketch symbol that has a property field in it that references a
> model custom property field. When I insert the sketch symbol as a callout
> it extracts the lowest level custom property field of the selected.... not
a
> problem if it is an ipt, but if selected is an iam and its the iam itself
> that you want to balloon then you can't extract its custom property field.
>
> Is this what you are describing?
>
> Dave
>
>
> "David Radlin" wrote in message
> news:BCFF2A4C067D559ADF43C59EC81AB3F3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > hmmmm.....?
> >
> > "Matt Luedke" wrote in message
> > news:66B6C88F7D8596C960B571EDCA9CBDDA@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Never had that problem in 7 worked fine
> > >
> > > "David Radlin" wrote in message
> > > news:D7DA8B67F04BA9F8D3F2139974B08631@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > This has been so... at least in IV7 it was.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > "Matt Luedke" wrote in message
> > > > news:45348DFBF414B8743B93BFE4935356A4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > I found that in 8 if I balloon an assembly, selecting first level
> > > > > components. When I balloon a subassembly within the main assembly
> the
> > > > > balloon number will not show. We use a custom property balloon,
and
> > the
> > > > top
> > > > > level part has an item number assigned to it. The balloon will not
> > show
> > > > the
> > > > > item number, if I assign the item number to a part in the assembly
> and
> > > > > balloon that part the item number will show. Inventor is treating
my
> > > > > sub-assemblies as "only parts" but I selected "first level
> > components".
> > > Is
> > > > > this a bug, or am I missing something.
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Anonymous
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‎11-24-2003 05:56 AM
‎11-24-2003 05:56 AM

So we agree on the behavior, yet I see it in 7 as well and you don't?

Dave
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