IV vs. PRO/E

[Anonymous]

Hi to all,

Did anybody who are presently using IV ever used Pro/e?? If you did what did you like or dislike about pro/e
and or IV. Is IV or pro/e more productive? Would you need to have both to be able to do very complecated parts or would IV just be the one?
@ this moment I'm using IV5 (I like it a lot) and in the same time I'm playing with pro/e 2001 but what I do not like about it is that it has way too many cliks.

Thanks,

regards

Joe

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Hi
to all,

Did anybody who are presently using IV ever used Pro/e?? If you did what
did you like or dislike about pro/e
and or IV. Is IV or pro/e more
productive? Would you need to have both to be able to do very complecated
parts or would IV just be the one?
@ this moment I'm using IV5 (I like it
a lot) and in the same time I'm playing with pro/e 2001 but what I do not like
about it is that it has way too many cliks.

Thanks,

regards

Joe

[Anonymous]

Joe,

ProE is releasing the next version - Wildfire - Q1 03 and reports are that
the clicking has been greatly reduced. I have been told that a model was
developed in each ProE 2001, MDT6 & Wildfire all the while tracking the
required clicks and that ProE 2001 took 230, MDT took about 180 and wildfire
came in at about 150 or so. I am currently working with MDT6 as my primary
and a little, but increasing, in ProE 2001.

I would like to investigate more into IV6 but when I did so at home, it
changed all my MDT 6 parameters when I had it interface with it somehow.

Does anyone know if I can dabble in IV without it changing all my menus and
toolbars around? It got real frustrating trying to work when the first thing
I had to do was restore them all just to be productive.

Also, My AD tells me that IV is more for large assemblies and that based of
the fact that I use MDT6 to develop products and integrate them into
tooling/injection molds that MDT6 is the best fit for me, Any input? Is IV6
all the rage that everyone is screaming about??

Mark N

"jetpro" wrote in message
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> Hi to all,
> Did anybody who are presently using IV ever used Pro/e?? If you did what
did you like or dislike about pro/e
> and or IV. Is IV or pro/e more productive? Would you need to have both to
be able to do very complecated parts or would IV just be the one?
> @ this moment I'm using IV5 (I like it a lot) and in the same time I'm
playing with pro/e 2001 but what I do not like about it is that it has way
too many cliks.
>
> Thanks,
>
> regards
>
> Joe
>

[Anonymous]

The only time I have had Inventor mess with MDT toolbars is when importing a
MDT file into Inventor. If you open the file in MDT before doing the
translation then the configuration in MDT doesn't get messed up.

Also just because Inventor handles large assemblies better doesn't mean it
doesn't work well with small projects

I think on Drews site www.mymcad.com is a faq or tips n tricks on doing
molds with derived parts.

--
Kent Keller
Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program

http://www.MyMcad.com/KWiK/Mcad.htm

"mn" wrote in message

> Does anyone know if I can dabble in IV without it changing all my menus
and
> toolbars around? It got real frustrating trying to work when the first
thing
> I had to do was restore them all just to be productive.

> Mark N

[Anonymous]

Wildfire looks suspicious like Inventor in it's menu structure and user
interface.

Leaders and followers....hmmm...

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
www.sdotson.com/faq.html
"mn" wrote in message
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> Joe,
>
> ProE is releasing the next version - Wildfire - Q1 03 and reports are that
> the clicking has been greatly reduced. I have been told that a model was
> developed in each ProE 2001, MDT6 & Wildfire all the while tracking the
> required clicks and that ProE 2001 took 230, MDT took about 180 and
wildfire
> came in at about 150 or so. I am currently working with MDT6 as my primary
> and a little, but increasing, in ProE 2001.
>
> I would like to investigate more into IV6 but when I did so at home, it
> changed all my MDT 6 parameters when I had it interface with it somehow.
>
> Does anyone know if I can dabble in IV without it changing all my menus
and
> toolbars around? It got real frustrating trying to work when the first
thing
> I had to do was restore them all just to be productive.
>
> Also, My AD tells me that IV is more for large assemblies and that based
of
> the fact that I use MDT6 to develop products and integrate them into
> tooling/injection molds that MDT6 is the best fit for me, Any input? Is
IV6
> all the rage that everyone is screaming about??
>
> Mark N
>
> "jetpro" wrote in message
> news:f12a92d.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hi to all,
> > Did anybody who are presently using IV ever used Pro/e?? If you did what
> did you like or dislike about pro/e
> > and or IV. Is IV or pro/e more productive? Would you need to have both
to
> be able to do very complecated parts or would IV just be the one?
> > @ this moment I'm using IV5 (I like it a lot) and in the same time I'm
> playing with pro/e 2001 but what I do not like about it is that it has way
> too many cliks.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Joe
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

I have yet to see it and am just starting to get familiar with IV6 . . . God
to know thou!

Mark

"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:46323EBF92E13F76D937E816E4EDB8BC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Wildfire looks suspicious like Inventor in it's menu structure and user
> interface.
>
> Leaders and followers....hmmm...
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
> www.sdotson.com/faq.html
> "mn" wrote in message
> news:631CF5371567C589DA124EF81EC6F2BE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Joe,
> >
> > ProE is releasing the next version - Wildfire - Q1 03 and reports are
that
> > the clicking has been greatly reduced. I have been told that a model was
> > developed in each ProE 2001, MDT6 & Wildfire all the while tracking the
> > required clicks and that ProE 2001 took 230, MDT took about 180 and
> wildfire
> > came in at about 150 or so. I am currently working with MDT6 as my
primary
> > and a little, but increasing, in ProE 2001.
> >
> > I would like to investigate more into IV6 but when I did so at home, it
> > changed all my MDT 6 parameters when I had it interface with it somehow.
> >
> > Does anyone know if I can dabble in IV without it changing all my menus
> and
> > toolbars around? It got real frustrating trying to work when the first
> thing
> > I had to do was restore them all just to be productive.
> >
> > Also, My AD tells me that IV is more for large assemblies and that based
> of
> > the fact that I use MDT6 to develop products and integrate them into
> > tooling/injection molds that MDT6 is the best fit for me, Any input? Is
> IV6
> > all the rage that everyone is screaming about??
> >
> > Mark N
> >
> > "jetpro" wrote in message
> > news:f12a92d.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Hi to all,
> > > Did anybody who are presently using IV ever used Pro/e?? If you did
what
> > did you like or dislike about pro/e
> > > and or IV. Is IV or pro/e more productive? Would you need to have both
> to
> > be able to do very complecated parts or would IV just be the one?
> > > @ this moment I'm using IV5 (I like it a lot) and in the same time I'm
> > playing with pro/e 2001 but what I do not like about it is that it has
way
> > too many cliks.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Kent, this happened to me just as you said. I loaded IV6 on my machine for
the first time a month ago to see what all the rage was about and when I
imported a MDT part, I changed things around. I did not have it open when I
did this so that explains that and DAH . . .I should have remembered that
cause and effect as the same thing happens if you use Batch plot without a
session already open. MDT like to remember the settings to the last open
session.

Kent, I know that you are well versed in MDT6 as I see you there also and
you seem to be right on most of the time, so I would appreciate you input on
the following:

Will IV6 work well for mod design as well as part design?

Do you see any drawbacks in using this as a true mechanical engineering
package for the manufacturing sector. i.e.: plastic injection molding and
metal stamping?

Many Thanks,

Mark N


"Kent Keller" wrote in message
news:07BCEB3E5308F22BB4806D3EB03408A1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> The only time I have had Inventor mess with MDT toolbars is when importing
a
> MDT file into Inventor. If you open the file in MDT before doing the
> translation then the configuration in MDT doesn't get messed up.
>
> Also just because Inventor handles large assemblies better doesn't mean it
> doesn't work well with small projects
>
> I think on Drews site www.mymcad.com is a faq or tips n tricks on doing
> molds with derived parts.
>
> --
> Kent Keller
> Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program
>
> http://www.MyMcad.com/KWiK/Mcad.htm
>
> "mn" wrote in message
>
> > Does anyone know if I can dabble in IV without it changing all my menus
> and
> > toolbars around? It got real frustrating trying to work when the first
> thing
> > I had to do was restore them all just to be productive.
>
> > Mark N
>
>

[Anonymous]

Mark

Keep in mind I do basic mostly right angle sheetmetal work. Molds,
surfaces etc are all Greek to me I am not sure what you mean by mod
design (is my ignorance showing yet)

I don't see any reason it wouldn't be a good package for those types of
things though. I am sure there is probably quite a few people doing both
here, and hopefully they will chime in with opinions.

The hardest part about Inventor for me is un-learning MDT, and I still
struggle with that at times. I think at times Inventor tends to take too
much computing power also. The graphics is great when it works, but it is
extremely touchy and important.

I think you will find Inventor very capable in the areas you are talking
about, but you will have to have a open mind and accept things aren't going
to be done the same as they were in MDT.

Sorry, can't be more help, just not enough experience in the areas you are
working in.

--
Kent Keller
Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program

http://www.MyMcad.com/KWiK/Mcad.htm

"mn" wrote in message

> Will IV6 work well for mod design as well as part design?
>
> Do you see any drawbacks in using this as a true mechanical engineering
> package for the manufacturing sector. i.e.: plastic injection molding and
> metal stamping?

[Anonymous]

Excuse my lack of double checking my grammar and spelling as Mod was
intended to be Mold. {;^/ I also find the same conflict you do in that I
must work with ProE to satisfy my customers and find that at times my habits
from MDT getting in the way. You said it best when you said "Open Mind". I
think that there are a lot of people in the "CAD World" that have closed
their minds and . . . as I am sure you have seen plenty of . . . have
disgraced what we all love to do, which is create and design, by polarizing
to one format or another rather than trying to understand the power of many
and how they can be used to their advantage. For example, I use MDT as my
primary but find limits each day. I can export and import to Pro and
sometimes accomplish the feature I couldn't in MDT. Sure, I get a base part
when I import back to MDT, but I ultimately get what I need . . . I'm
successful in design even if it ends up being more work. Now don't get me
wrong, I find a fair number of limitation in Pro as well and that is why MDT
is still my platform of choice.

Thanks much for you candor and lets all hope that all systems continue to
improve and challenge each other for that is what makes them all better. I
only hope that we all can be constructive in other criticism and ultimately
have an "OPEN MIND"!!

Thanks Kent [B^)-

Regards,

Mark N

"Kent Keller" wrote in message
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> Mark
>
> Keep in mind I do basic mostly right angle sheetmetal work. Molds,
> surfaces etc are all Greek to me I am not sure what you mean by mod
> design (is my ignorance showing yet)
>
> I don't see any reason it wouldn't be a good package for those types
of
> things though. I am sure there is probably quite a few people doing both
> here, and hopefully they will chime in with opinions.
>
> The hardest part about Inventor for me is un-learning MDT, and I still
> struggle with that at times. I think at times Inventor tends to take too
> much computing power also. The graphics is great when it works, but it is
> extremely touchy and important.
>
> I think you will find Inventor very capable in the areas you are talking
> about, but you will have to have a open mind and accept things aren't
going
> to be done the same as they were in MDT.
>
> Sorry, can't be more help, just not enough experience in the areas you are
> working in.
>
> --
> Kent Keller
> Member of the Autodesk Discussion Forum Moderator Program
>
> http://www.MyMcad.com/KWiK/Mcad.htm
>
> "mn" wrote in message
>
> > Will IV6 work well for mod design as well as part design?
> >
> > Do you see any drawbacks in using this as a true mechanical engineering
> > package for the manufacturing sector. i.e.: plastic injection molding
and
> > metal stamping?
>
>