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doubleA26
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IPN View not shading correctly

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08-29-2011 01:25 PM

Please see attached.  I became sick from trying to look through all the posts that come back on a search of the forums.  

 

Basically, the view for my IPN is not the same as the view from my assembly file.  The view on the left in the attached PNG is of my IPN and the view on the right is my assembly LOD. 

 

Can anyone direct me to a post, or an answer that will clarify why my IPN file shaded views are different from my IAM shaded views??

 

Thanks in advance...

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bobvdd
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Re: IPN View not shading correctly

08-30-2011 02:50 PM in reply to: doubleA26
I would check what viewrep you have used and if you used a decal for the dial or not.
Those are the first two things that spring to mind.
Bob
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doubleA26
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Re: IPN View not shading correctly

08-31-2011 05:39 AM in reply to: bobvdd

Bob, thanks for the reply.  There are no images anywhere on the dial of the gauge or of the rotameter that is bronze color.  The only reason why I think it's doing this is because they are multi-bodied parts?? Dunno yet, still searchin for an answer...

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-niels-
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Re: IPN View not shading correctly

08-31-2011 07:20 AM in reply to: doubleA26

I have seen this, or at least similar, effect on a manometer i made.

Also a multi-body part, with a glass plate having a transparent color.

Apparently the .ipn reverts to the "main" solid color. (as if opacity was set to 100%)

 

I could start a rant on all the things that are wrong with ipn's, but i'll keep it to saying that ipn's seem to have had no development over the years... which is really starting to become frustrating.


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doubleA26
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Re: IPN View not shading correctly

08-31-2011 07:41 AM in reply to: -niels-

Aw, man, for real Niels??? I'm glad I'm in a good relationship with the customer, he laughed when I sent over the 2 different representations of the product....

 

I guess no more presentations for me then.  I use many multi-bodied parts for my components and if this is the behavior.....

 

Niels, I see you're on 2012, is this issue still present in the latest release?

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Re: IPN View not shading correctly

08-31-2011 02:50 PM in reply to: doubleA26

If someone on this thread would post a dataset, I would be more than happy to verify if this problem still exists on R2012.

Thanks.

Bob 

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Re: IPN View not shading correctly

08-31-2011 07:37 PM in reply to: bobvdd

Bob, I when I get into work in the morning I will post the sample files. Thanks for the help...

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Re: IPN View not shading correctly

08-31-2011 11:22 PM in reply to: bobvdd

Aaron & Bob; yes the problem still exists in 2012.

I've attached the manometer, which is not a very complex part.

It probably doesn't even need the glas in it, but it was modelled that way and it does show the ipn defect.

 

Just put the manometer in an iam, then make an ipn of that iam, place shaded views on a drawing to see the effect.

 

I have more examples, but it really comes down to using multi-body parts where one of the bodies is set to a transparent color. ~edit: added a very simple multi-body part that shows this.~


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Re: IPN View not shading correctly

09-01-2011 11:09 AM in reply to: -niels-

Niels, thanks for uploading some files.  I had to rush out to a vendor to check on some frames we were getting made and didn't have any time to get my files uploaded..

 

Does anyone know if this will be fixed at all???

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Re: IPN View not shading correctly

09-01-2011 02:45 PM in reply to: doubleA26

I confirmed this on R2012Sp1 and logged a priority 2 defect for this  with number1416648.

The transparent color of multi-body parst is not respected in drawing views of presentations.

We struggle in a similar manner with transparancy of multi-bodiy parts when rendering in Inventor Studio.

Hopefully by connecting these two defects we can come to a solution more rapidly. I am not in a position to give you estimates on when this can be fixed.

 

In the meantime I suggest you use the "Make components" command to turn your mutti-body part into an assembly.

Once in an assembly you can apply the transparent color to the individual parts. You can still continue to modify your multi-body part. You won't losoe associativity by going to the assembly if that would be any concern.

 

Thanks

Bob

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