Glass Half Full

[mikebelter]

After reading discussions on a daily basis for some time now, and seeing so many negative comments I have to say this; My glass is half full. Increase in productivity changing to Inventor from AutoCAD is 2 to 3 times. For myself, Inventor was intuitive to learn. I now find it a cumbersome task going back and revising old AutoCAD drawings. Yes, data management is more daunting with Inventor, but that is largely a function of the extent of the software capabilities.
As long as Autodesk concentrates on development and customer service my glass is half full.

[Anonymous]

Generally speaking, I've got to agree with you.

But if users don't speak up about problems:-

a. they can't get any advice or help
b. Adsk don't always know where the problems are or how they occur etc.



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wrote in message news:5733809@discussion.autodesk.com...
After reading discussions on a daily basis for some time now, and seeing so many
negative comments I have to say this; My glass is half full. Increase in
productivity changing to Inventor from AutoCAD is 2 to 3 times. For myself, Inventor
was intuitive to learn. I now find it a cumbersome task going back and revising old
AutoCAD drawings. Yes, data management is more daunting with Inventor, but that is
largely a function of the extent of the software capabilities.
As long as Autodesk concentrates on development and customer service my glass is
half full.

[mikebelter]

Yes, we need to speak up. All the collective brains, eyes and ears are necessary. My point is to discuss issues in a constructive and assertive manner. Fill the top half, don't drain the bottom half.


Mike

[Anonymous]

il giorno 27/09/2007 17.42 Duncan Anderson ha scritto:

> Generally speaking, I've got to agree with you.
>
> But if users don't speak up about problems:-
>
> a. they can't get any advice or help
> b. Adsk don't always know where the problems are or how they occur etc.

I agree.
I'm not satisfied about performance, Inventor needs too much resources
for relatively simple tasks such as sketching.
I'm not a "power user", my parts are usually simple and my assemblies
are not big), anyway.

M.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes I wish I were a nOOb again so I could be so optimistic 🙂 It's
easy to get jaded over the years when features either get broken & can't be
fixed for at least a year because of Autodesk policy, get changed because
some product designer had a new (narrow) vision, or get introduced just so
they can appear on the brochure & never really work. You're right it's a
great product but being a longtime user is kind of like being a cop in LA -
you deal with so much bad pretty soon you just shoot first & ask questions
later.

[Anonymous]

i think overall inventor is a good program, but far from being polished. Especially with so much competition out there, you'd think the designers would take a look at the nice features from other programs and integrate them into inventor.

Simple things like MATING... i can't stand having to click on the specific mate, yet solidworks has had a great, simple mate feature for at least 5 years...

i'm a glass half empty guy myself, but only because i've used 4 other 3D CAD programs.

[Cschmidt]

What are the hardware specs on that Glass? Are you following proper flow procedures when drinking from the glass? Have you received any training on how to perceive if the glass is half full or half empty?

[Anonymous]

It's not that the glass is half full, the glass was overbuilt originally.
Using IV since version 4 I don't know how we ever did anything properly in
Acad. I complained about performance for the first couple of years until we
switched to workstations over desktop machines that were glorified office
PC's. I really don't thing that there is a software package out there that
every user is satisfied with their machine performance.

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wrote in message news:5734017@discussion.autodesk.com...
What are the hardware specs on that Glass? Are you following proper flow
procedures when drinking from the glass? Have you received any training on
how to perceive if the glass is half full or half empty?

[Anonymous]

If i ever get frustrated I think back to using an old 486 with AutoCAD 10
DOS for nesting our buring table, then I rememeber the progress from AutoCAD
LT 95 to MDT 3 and up etc. Then I realise even with whatever problem I am
having, its still way easier than it was in the past.

wrote in message news:5733809@discussion.autodesk.com...
After reading discussions on a daily basis for some time now, and seeing so
many negative comments I have to say this; My glass is half full. Increase
in productivity changing to Inventor from AutoCAD is 2 to 3 times. For
myself, Inventor was intuitive to learn. I now find it a cumbersome task
going back and revising old AutoCAD drawings. Yes, data management is more
daunting with Inventor, but that is largely a function of the extent of the
software capabilities.
As long as Autodesk concentrates on development and customer service my
glass is half full.

[dan_inv09]

The brochure is the glass.
The features that work properly go in the glass.

Plus, we're Engineers to begin with. (half full/ empty/too big)

[Cschmidt]

when I was using release 4/5 Autodesk almost had me convinced I was losing my marbles but it turns out the software actually had flaws but I'm glad they've fixed the majority of the bugs since then. I can remember crashing about 6 times a day.

[andrewiv]

I can remember that too, almost like it was yesterday. Wait, it was.

[Anonymous]

Though I do miss the days when an entire spreadsheet program with decent help could be run from a floppy disk. That program did at least 80% of what 80% of engineers use spreadsheet for... calculations. And BUG's and half baked features were far and few between. 😄

Pete

[Anonymous]

I Hear you.

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3gb memory, SCSI320-15k
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Quadro FX3400: Driver: 91.36 OpenGL
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wrote in message news:5734221@discussion.autodesk.com...
Though I do miss the days when an entire spreadsheet program with decent
help could be run from a floppy disk. That program did at least 80% of what
80% of engineers use spreadsheet for... calculations. And BUG's and half
baked features were far and few between. 😄

Pete

[Anonymous]

Man that sure brings back memories. Fall of 2001, we were running v4 on
Gateway desktops with 4mb (yep I said megabytes) onboard video cards.
Anyone designing something more complicated than a Dixie cup would be
randomly crashing about every 20 minutes. Everyone was seriously losing 2-3
hours a day from lost work after crashes. Cad manager duked it out with our
IT manager and we finally got some decent 3D cards. They still weren't
great but our productivity skyrocketed. We were only getting 3-4 crashes a
week. Nowadays, crashing in a non-repeatable fashion is extremely rare.

Patrick