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*McLean, Stan
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Disappearing Inventor file

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12-08-2002 08:57 PM
Has anybody experience the disappearance of an assembly file or part file
while saving to a network? I have 2 different customers who both had this
happen.

One was on 5.3, the other was using Inventor 6.

During a save the network had a little coffee break. One customer said he
received an error message. All the ipt changes where saved, but the iam
file was nowhere to be found.

The other customer experienced the same, but I have less details about his
problem. From what I understand the iam or ipt was nowhere to be found
after saving.

Just wondering if anybody else has experienced this with Inventor and if you
did, what happened?

Stan McLean
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sean_gtm
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Registered: ‎10-23-2003
Message 2 of 20 (83 Views)

Re: Disappearing Inventor file

12-08-2002 09:11 PM in reply to: *McLean, Stan
Hi Stan.....I've had this happen quite a times now.....Inventor crashes, and the file (part or assembly), disappears without a trace.....It has been mentioned before - but I can't recall a specific fix....I just recover the file from the previous nights backup......We run winn2000 server, and a mixture of 2000 and XP stations.....Sean
*PANNING, AUGUST
Message 3 of 20 (83 Views)

Re: Disappearing Inventor file

12-08-2002 09:15 PM in reply to: *McLean, Stan
I have experienced the same problem saving on a network. The file completely
and totally vanishes without a trace.
*RMD
Message 4 of 20 (83 Views)

Re: Disappearing Inventor file

12-08-2002 09:42 PM in reply to: *McLean, Stan
We use to have this problem all the time. We upgraded the network interface
card in the server to increase throughput and the problem went away.

Rick

"Stan McLean" wrote in message
news:71E82D38BCC80A699E3814752A135733@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Has anybody experience the disappearance of an assembly file or part file
> while saving to a network? I have 2 different customers who both had this
> happen.
>
> One was on 5.3, the other was using Inventor 6.
>
> During a save the network had a little coffee break. One customer said he
> received an error message. All the ipt changes where saved, but the iam
> file was nowhere to be found.
>
> The other customer experienced the same, but I have less details about his
> problem. From what I understand the iam or ipt was nowhere to be found
> after saving.
>
> Just wondering if anybody else has experienced this with Inventor and if
you
> did, what happened?
>
> Stan McLean
>
>
*PANNING, AUGUST
Message 5 of 20 (83 Views)

Re:

12-08-2002 09:58 PM in reply to: *McLean, Stan
Not meaning to pry too much, but about how much did the network card upgrade
cost?
*Radlin, David
Message 6 of 20 (83 Views)

Re: Disappearing Inventor file

12-08-2002 10:48 PM in reply to: *McLean, Stan
This has happened to us several times as well. I can offer no explanations.
This is not the first time this has popped up on the group.

We have never had any problems with any other programs dropping files over
the network. The problem seems to be isolated to IV. I'd like to know
why - you can easily loose a days worth of work even if you back-up daily.

We run on a simple peer-to-peer W2K network (four users) at 100Mbps. Prior
to a recent upgrade we were running at 10Mbps. The problem existed in both
network set-ups and all versions of IV that we have used (since IV4).

I can recall when we were evaluating IV3 that it was particularly troubled
with our 10 Mbps network. There was a particular error dialogue message
that often popped up however I don't recall what it was. It did however
highlight a certain network dependancy. The issue went away in IV4 - or
perhaps it "morphed" into the problem we speak of today.

If Autodesk is aware of a user hardware or configuration issue that causes
this and a way to troubleshoot it I would be grateful to know. Never have I
heard any stated network requirements to support IV as is the case with
graphics cards.

My suspicion remains focused on IV since as previously stated the problem
appears isolated to it. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Dave

"Stan McLean" wrote in message
news:71E82D38BCC80A699E3814752A135733@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Has anybody experience the disappearance of an assembly file or part file
> while saving to a network? I have 2 different customers who both had this
> happen.
>
> One was on 5.3, the other was using Inventor 6.
>
> During a save the network had a little coffee break. One customer said he
> received an error message. All the ipt changes where saved, but the iam
> file was nowhere to be found.
>
> The other customer experienced the same, but I have less details about his
> problem. From what I understand the iam or ipt was nowhere to be found
> after saving.
>
> Just wondering if anybody else has experienced this with Inventor and if
you
> did, what happened?
>
> Stan McLean
>
>
*KJohnson
Message 7 of 20 (83 Views)

Re:

12-08-2002 11:42 PM in reply to: *McLean, Stan
What about opening the Last version. That way you will only lose to the
last save.

Kathy Johnson

"David Radlin" wrote in message
news:51ADED5EA07CA3E8332A80DAAE4C9DBB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> This has happened to us several times as well. I can offer no
explanations.
> This is not the first time this has popped up on the group.
>
> We have never had any problems with any other programs dropping files over
> the network. The problem seems to be isolated to IV. I'd like to know
> why - you can easily loose a days worth of work even if you back-up daily.
>
> We run on a simple peer-to-peer W2K network (four users) at 100Mbps.
Prior
> to a recent upgrade we were running at 10Mbps. The problem existed in
both
> network set-ups and all versions of IV that we have used (since IV4).
>
> I can recall when we were evaluating IV3 that it was particularly troubled
> with our 10 Mbps network. There was a particular error dialogue message
> that often popped up however I don't recall what it was. It did however
> highlight a certain network dependancy. The issue went away in IV4 - or
> perhaps it "morphed" into the problem we speak of today.
>
> If Autodesk is aware of a user hardware or configuration issue that causes
> this and a way to troubleshoot it I would be grateful to know. Never have
I
> heard any stated network requirements to support IV as is the case with
> graphics cards.
>
> My suspicion remains focused on IV since as previously stated the problem
> appears isolated to it. Please correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Dave
>
> "Stan McLean" wrote in message
> news:71E82D38BCC80A699E3814752A135733@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Has anybody experience the disappearance of an assembly file or part
file
> > while saving to a network? I have 2 different customers who both had
this
> > happen.
> >
> > One was on 5.3, the other was using Inventor 6.
> >
> > During a save the network had a little coffee break. One customer said
he
> > received an error message. All the ipt changes where saved, but the iam
> > file was nowhere to be found.
> >
> > The other customer experienced the same, but I have less details about
his
> > problem. From what I understand the iam or ipt was nowhere to be found
> > after saving.
> >
> > Just wondering if anybody else has experienced this with Inventor and if
> you
> > did, what happened?
> >
> > Stan McLean
> >
> >
>
>
*Radlin, David
Message 8 of 20 (83 Views)

Re:

12-09-2002 02:43 AM in reply to: *McLean, Stan
Good suggestion... I've got 5.3 in my mind were this wasn't an option.

Still, wish it wasn't an issue... it happened again about 15 minutes ago.

Dave

"KJohnson" wrote in message
news:E02DBD92622A252EE626C8E79233D7F6@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> What about opening the Last version. That way you will only lose to the
> last save.
>
> Kathy Johnson
>
> "David Radlin" wrote in message
> news:51ADED5EA07CA3E8332A80DAAE4C9DBB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > This has happened to us several times as well. I can offer no
> explanations.
> > This is not the first time this has popped up on the group.
> >
> > We have never had any problems with any other programs dropping files
over
> > the network. The problem seems to be isolated to IV. I'd like to know
> > why - you can easily loose a days worth of work even if you back-up
daily.
> >
> > We run on a simple peer-to-peer W2K network (four users) at 100Mbps.
> Prior
> > to a recent upgrade we were running at 10Mbps. The problem existed in
> both
> > network set-ups and all versions of IV that we have used (since IV4).
> >
> > I can recall when we were evaluating IV3 that it was particularly
troubled
> > with our 10 Mbps network. There was a particular error dialogue message
> > that often popped up however I don't recall what it was. It did however
> > highlight a certain network dependancy. The issue went away in IV4 - or
> > perhaps it "morphed" into the problem we speak of today.
> >
> > If Autodesk is aware of a user hardware or configuration issue that
causes
> > this and a way to troubleshoot it I would be grateful to know. Never
have
> I
> > heard any stated network requirements to support IV as is the case with
> > graphics cards.
> >
> > My suspicion remains focused on IV since as previously stated the
problem
> > appears isolated to it. Please correct me if I am wrong.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Stan McLean" wrote in message
> > news:71E82D38BCC80A699E3814752A135733@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Has anybody experience the disappearance of an assembly file or part
> file
> > > while saving to a network? I have 2 different customers who both had
> this
> > > happen.
> > >
> > > One was on 5.3, the other was using Inventor 6.
> > >
> > > During a save the network had a little coffee break. One customer said
> he
> > > received an error message. All the ipt changes where saved, but the
iam
> > > file was nowhere to be found.
> > >
> > > The other customer experienced the same, but I have less details about
> his
> > > problem. From what I understand the iam or ipt was nowhere to be
found
> > > after saving.
> > >
> > > Just wondering if anybody else has experienced this with Inventor and
if
> > you
> > > did, what happened?
> > >
> > > Stan McLean
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*McLean, Stan
Message 9 of 20 (83 Views)

Re: Disappearing Inventor file

12-09-2002 10:09 PM in reply to: *McLean, Stan
Thanks for the replies,

It just confirms my thought that other are have and living with this
problem. Yes it is probably a network issue - speed, speed, speed.

Inventor for some reason must have to remove or delete the file, during a
save. If the network has a hiccup, then boom no more files. Less problem
in 6 with the old versions, big headache in 5.3 (several hours of begging
the IT person to restore the files.)

Stan
"Stan McLean" wrote in message
news:71E82D38BCC80A699E3814752A135733@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Has anybody experience the disappearance of an assembly file or part file
> while saving to a network? I have 2 different customers who both had this
> happen.
>
> One was on 5.3, the other was using Inventor 6.
>
> During a save the network had a little coffee break. One customer said he
> received an error message. All the ipt changes where saved, but the iam
> file was nowhere to be found.
>
> The other customer experienced the same, but I have less details about his
> problem. From what I understand the iam or ipt was nowhere to be found
> after saving.
>
> Just wondering if anybody else has experienced this with Inventor and if
you
> did, what happened?
>
> Stan McLean
>
>
*Kay, Jon
Message 10 of 20 (83 Views)

Re:

12-10-2002 10:39 PM in reply to: *McLean, Stan
Group,
This has just happened to me.
A whole mornings worth of IDW work lost in an instant.
Inventor / server problem. (I am still using 5.3)
I'm off to the pub for an hour.........

Jon Kay

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