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cwhetten
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Message 11 of 17 (246 Views)

Re: Dimensioning suppressed parts

03-05-2012 08:32 AM in reply to: mrattray

I tried to use LOD's in just this way.  It doesn't work.  I sent the case to Autodesk Support, and after they tested my files to see exactly what was going on, they gave this response:

 

Hi Cameron,

I’ve heard back from the development group and it is normal for what you are seeing. When a view is changed it automatically deletes annotations no longer connected.

There is one exception. That is when View representation is used. It will remove the annotation like the dimension and balloons when there components are suppressed in a view representation. They will return when a different or original view representation is restored.

I hope that explains what you’re seeing and happening.

Regards,

Charlie Mercer
Product Support Specialist
Manchester, NH, USA
www.autodesk.com

 I know that LOD's were originally intended to be used for system resource management, but what about this:

 

Manually suppressing a part does not affect the quantities in the BOM (unless you suppress all occurrences of a part, then the line disappears).  However, using iLogic to suppress parts DOES affect the BOM quantites.

 

Why introduce this functionality if it isn't intended to develop assembly configurations?

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mrattray
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Message 12 of 17 (230 Views)

Re: Dimensioning suppressed parts

03-05-2012 09:36 AM in reply to: cwhetten

What the hell AutoDesk? What's the point of including a tool as powerful and robust as iLogic and then not give us a means to actual do anything with it? I mean, what's the point of an infinately configurable form driven model that can't be drawn and detailed properly?

Mike (not Matt) Rattray

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axa-61
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Registered: ‎08-08-2012
Message 13 of 17 (178 Views)

Re: Dimensioning suppressed parts

10-25-2012 04:46 AM in reply to: mrattray

"Am I really the only person that uses component suppression for something other than simplifying large assemblies?"

 

Hi Mike, looks like you are not the only one struggling with this issue!  I also build up my assebly using iLogic and LOD to control different assembly configurations very much as you describe it . And now seems like I have exactly the same problem. Suppressing parts not only distroing corresponding dimensions on drawing but  also wiping out attached ballons. What a point to build sophisticated iLogic driven assembly if the is no simple way  to retract correct BOM and make drawing view reflecting desired assembly configuration?

 

Kind regards,

Alexei

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axa-61
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Message 14 of 17 (173 Views)

Re: Dimensioning suppressed parts

10-25-2012 05:29 AM in reply to: mrattray

Hi Mike,

 If you find solution or work around this issue could please let me know.

 

Kind regards,

Alexei

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mrattray
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Message 15 of 17 (170 Views)

Re: Dimensioning suppressed parts

10-25-2012 05:32 AM in reply to: axa-61

I've never found an appropriate solution. I just try to set up my drawings to best accomadate the most common scenarios and am forced listen to my users complain about having to clean up layout drawings.

Mike (not Matt) Rattray

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rwollenhaupt
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Registered: ‎03-16-2006
Message 16 of 17 (54 Views)

Re: Dimensioning suppressed parts

04-25-2014 11:37 AM in reply to: mrattray

Mike,

We are currently going through the same issue. Did you ever come up with a good solution or work around?

 

Thanks,

Bob W

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mrattray
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Message 17 of 17 (43 Views)

Re: Dimensioning suppressed parts

04-25-2014 11:45 AM in reply to: rwollenhaupt

No but it helps (in my opinion) if you make sure this option is checked:

 

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Also, I avoid using suppression now for new automation projects.

Mike (not Matt) Rattray

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