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aaron.seifert
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Decals in Assemblies

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08-06-2012 09:36 AM

Autodesk Wiki Help says this: "Decals may be stocked and have part numbers. If this is a requirement, consider creating the decal in its own part file. You can then insert it into an assembly and use assembly constraints to position it."  Now this is possible but you can not wrap or face the decal in the assembly mode, let say on a piece of pipe.  The only way to wrap of face is modifying a part, adding the decal, but then you don't get a part number in a BOM because its not a separate part. Does anyone have a solution?

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Re: Decals in Assemblies

08-06-2012 10:03 AM in reply to: aaron.seifert

Hi aaron.seifert,

 

I prefer to handle this with an iPart factory. Attached is a simple example. The wrap diameter is set when placing the part into an assembly.

 

I hope this helps.
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Re: Decals in Assemblies

10-17-2012 08:04 AM in reply to: Curtis_Waguespack

Hi Curtis,

 

I realise this is an old(ish) post but I have used your method to create a label (in an ipart) however when I add it into the assembly the graphics don't actually show the label. Is there any way to get this to show?

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: Decals in Assemblies

10-17-2012 08:46 AM in reply to: CNewman

Hi CNewman,

 

My apologies for the misinformation.

 

My focus when creating this post must have been on the changing of the diameter and getting the part number in the BOM, more so than the image.

 

The image will not show in the iPart member files as you've noticed, because iParts are essentially derived parts, and the  derived part tools do not support image decals.

 

Honestly, I use a variety of workarounds to get the results we need for this when showing an image is needed, but I doubt any of them are too practical. For the most part we use this iPart approach for numbered labels where the text and logo are extruded features, and it works well. Even when we use an image decal, our focus is on getting the correct part number of the label in the BOM.

 

I hope this helps.
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Re: Decals in Assemblies

10-18-2012 12:42 AM in reply to: Curtis_Waguespack

Thanks Curtis,

 

I half expected as much as there seems to be a fair bit you cannot show/use when using iParts. I'm pretty new to Inventor (as a seasoned ProEngineer user) so it's all a bit of a learning curve for me at the moment but we're getting there.

 

Appreciate your help though.

 

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Re: Decals in Assemblies

10-18-2012 01:48 AM in reply to: CNewman

instead of using iParts could you get the same result by using the export (and linked) parameters?

 

presumably the parent pipe's diameter is a value in its parameter table, if so then set it to export.

 

for the decal, create a new file and goto the parameter table and "link" pointing to the parent ipt and select the exported value (has a v small green arrow over the x in the collumn).  Use this as the inner diameter of a curved label and extrude the label's dimensions and decal the image wrapped to that.

 

now have 2 parts (for the BOM) linked without iparts.  Or have I missed something?

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Re: Decals in Assemblies

10-19-2012 05:14 AM in reply to: sam_m

Thanks for your suggestion, i'll have to have a play with this and see if I can't find something that will work for us.

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Re: Decals in Assemblies

04-18-2013 06:06 AM in reply to: aaron.seifert

I thought that you could only place a decal on a part, not assembly? How can you place it into an assembly?

 

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Re: Decals in Assemblies

04-18-2013 06:13 AM in reply to: Bob.Shearer

Bob.Shearer wrote:

I thought that you could only place a decal on a part, not assembly? How can you place it into an assembly?

 




You can simply create a new part...extrude a surface the same size as the decal, attach a decal image to it and save that as a part..then place that part into any assembly.

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Re: Decals in Assemblies

04-18-2013 08:05 AM in reply to: mcgyvr

I am not sure I follow you. In the assemblies I am refering to are stencils that need to show up in the drawing for electrical designations. If I make an extruded surface and create a new part, I am not sure how I can get that to show

in the assembly.

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