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*Allen, Albert
Message 1 of 19 (79 Views)

Can R6 do a flat of a flared horn?

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11-13-2002 05:58 AM
The kind of flare you might find on a trombone, French horn etc.(not a cone)
Will R6 do a flat pattern of that? I think I already know the answer but I
might be surprised!

Thanks,

Albert (the guy without R6 loaded) but hoping
*Hinterhoeller, Richard
Message 2 of 19 (79 Views)

Re: Can R6 do a flat of a flared horn?

11-13-2002 06:16 AM in reply to: *Allen, Albert
Albert:

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.

Richard
*Allen, Albert
Message 3 of 19 (79 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 06:21 AM in reply to: *Allen, Albert
Thanks Richard, that is the answer I expected but one can hope. I guess it
is a little complicated and even if it could give me what to do how would I
go about making one
"Richard Hinterhoeller" wrote in message
news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
> Albert:
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
> a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
>
> Richard
>
*Germer, Ole
Message 4 of 19 (79 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 06:47 AM in reply to: *Allen, Albert
It is spun if you know what that is!
Ole

"Richard Hinterhoeller" wrote in message
news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
> Albert:
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
> a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
>
> Richard
>
*Hiebert, Billy
Message 5 of 19 (79 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 06:55 AM in reply to: *Allen, Albert
I saw them being made once. The horn section is divided into several
sections and wrapped and soldered. A lot of pounding takes place during
the process. I can't remember much more than that, but it was very
interesting.

--
Billy Hiebert
HIEBERT SCULPTURE WORKS
Small Part Injection Molding
http://www.hieberts.com

Albert Allen wrote:

> Thanks Richard, that is the answer I expected but one can hope. I guess it
> is a little complicated and even if it could give me what to do how would I
> go about making one
> "Richard Hinterhoeller" wrote in message
> news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
>
>>Albert:
>>
>>Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
>>a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
>>
>>Richard
>>
>>
>
>
*Allen, Albert
Message 6 of 19 (79 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 07:40 AM in reply to: *Allen, Albert
Same way that cymbals are made I think.
"Ole Germer" wrote in message
news:53E875809EA3BC597C275ADF70BBE2B1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> It is spun if you know what that is!
> Ole
>
> "Richard Hinterhoeller" wrote in message
> news:3DD2CF30.5010003@hfx.eastlink.ca...
> > Albert:
> >
> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
> > a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.
> >
> > Richard
> >
>
>
*Yeandle, Laurence
Message 7 of 19 (79 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 07:40 AM in reply to: *Allen, Albert
2nd that, yes allot of patience very interesting indeed. Make two flat
shaped horns out of 30" brass, square notch the edges so they will interlock
down the sides of the funnel. Bend tabs over so they interlock and solder
down the tabs, then force the flat envelope over a shaped mandrel. Hammer
out till the funnel is formed and hammer some more then polish. Phew would
you believe it. Hand made of course.

--
Laurence,

Power is nothing without Control
---


"Billy Hiebert" wrote in message
news:3DD2D867.5070104@hieberts.com...
> I saw them being made once. The horn section is divided into several
> sections and wrapped and soldered. A lot of pounding takes place during
> the process. I can't remember much more than that, but it was very
> interesting.
>
> --
> Billy Hiebert
>
*Hiebert, Billy
Message 8 of 19 (79 Views)

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11-13-2002 08:23 AM in reply to: *Allen, Albert
I'm glad someone's memory is better than mine! I have an old trumpet
and the plating is worn so you can see the tabs. Beautiful.
--
Billy Hiebert
HIEBERT SCULPTURE WORKS
Small Part Injection Molding
http://www.hieberts.com

Laurence Yeandle wrote:

> 2nd that, yes allot of patience very interesting indeed. Make two flat
> shaped horns out of 30" brass, square notch the edges so they will interlock
> down the sides of the funnel. Bend tabs over so they interlock and solder
> down the tabs, then force the flat envelope over a shaped mandrel. Hammer
> out till the funnel is formed and hammer some more then polish. Phew would
> you believe it. Hand made of course.
>
> --
> Laurence,
>
> Power is nothing without Control
> ---
>
*Bliss, Charles
Message 9 of 19 (79 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 03:50 PM in reply to: *Allen, Albert
I just posted a Trumpet to CF.  This thread caught my interest so I pulled
the old trumpet out to see if I could model it.  Anyone up for modeling a
Strad?  



In the process, I found a bug in my Save to JPEG tool.  That has been repaired
and posted to my web site.



Ole Germer wrote:


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It is spun if you know what that is!
Ole

"Richard Hinterhoeller" <rhinterhoeller@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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Albert:

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but every trombone I've ever seen is
a compound curve so it won't flat pattern.

Richard








*Bilton, John
Message 10 of 19 (79 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 06:21 PM in reply to: *Allen, Albert
Never mind modelling a Strad, any one know how to play one? I actually started modelling the
hammer/damper mechanism on my Piano back in R2, but never got round to finishing it. Maybe one
day...

John Bilton

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