Bolts in Bolted connection "missing"

[pball]

Myself and my coworkers have noticed that some times bolted connections will be missing a bolt. The bolt in question will appear again if you edit the bolted connection and hit ok and let it rebuild. But then another bolt in a different bolted connection will disappear. I just went back and forth between updating two sets of bolted connections and each time I updated one a bolt in the other disappeared. It's almost like there is a limit to how many bolts the assembly will show at once. The assemblies in question don't always have large numbers of bolts and other hardware though.

Has anyone else noticed this before?

I'm running Inventor 2013 SP2 running Nvidia Driver Release 276.42 [8.17.12.7642], which is the last recommended driver. I've also run newer/older drives with no difference.

[pball]

Myself and my coworkers have noticed that some times bolted connections will be missing a bolt. The bolt in question will appear again if you edit the bolted connection and hit ok and let it rebuild. But then another bolt in a different bolted connection will disappear. I just went back and forth between updating two sets of bolted connections and each time I updated one a bolt in the other disappeared. It's almost like there is a limit to how many bolts the assembly will show at once. The assemblies in question don't always have large numbers of bolts and other hardware though.

Has anyone else noticed this before?

I'm running Inventor 2013 SP2 running Nvidia Driver Release 276.42 [8.17.12.7642], which is the last recommended driver. I've also run newer/older drives with no difference.

[QBiX]

Anyone has as solution to this problem?

I'm facing the same issue.

All bolts and washers, nuts, etc ... show up IN your bolted connection, but not in the assembly after closing the bolted connection edit window.

[shadoweagle2000]

Necrobumping this because of how ridiculous it is that this is still an issue 4 years later.

Bolts still show up in Bolted Connections that do not appear in the actual assembly. This is a crappy and quite glaring bug that basically only has two solutions from the user's perspective:

1) Make a new bolted connection for every single bolt. (really?)

2) Manually place and constrain bolts, washers, and nuts for every single hole (even worse than #1)

[Hochenauer]

Could you please provide an assembly that shows this issue so we can get to the bottom of it?

Thanks,

Gerald

[kelly.young]

@shadoweagle2000 can you provide a screenshot, screencast, or bolted connection assembly with all parts (pack & go)?

I have never seen or been able to reproduce this behavior. Without documenting what's happening it could go another four years being ridiculous so we need your help.

What version are you running?

Are the bolted connections standard or custom Content Center parts?

Does this behavior exist on the simplest of examples or only in complex situations?

Please provide more information as to what you are experiencing so we can determine a root cause, thanks!

[jortegaABW9H]

I'm having the same issue.

A1. 2018

A2. STANDARD

A3. SIMPLE

[Pavel_Holecek]

Hello,

I am not able to reproduce it  therefore I would like to ask you if you could share your dataset.  You can send it to me directly if you do not want to share dataset here.

Regards

[jortegaABW9H]

Dataset?

[jortegaABW9H]

Pack and Go? Then Zip?

kelly.young has compressed your .rar as .zip for clarity.

[kelly.young]

Hello @jortegaABW9H when it is intermittent performance or not easily reproducible having the specific dataset, which is all assemblies and parts, is helpful to determine how to improve the behavior.

Recording a screencast showing what you are experiencing and attaching a Pack & Go as a .zip is the best way to document for internal review.

Please select the Accept as Solution button if a post solves your issue or answers your question.

[e4baerospace]

Thanks! I attached a .rar file with the pack and go. I'll look into screencast.

[chris.harbour]

This is still an issue in IV2022, i can' remember a version where this doesn't happen. See my screen grabs.

[johnsonshiue]

Hi! I could be wrong but I thought it was related to how the pattern was defined. If possible, please share the files here. I can work with the project team to understand it better.

Many thanks!

[chris.harbour]

It is defined as 'By Hole' and the hole it picks up is a 'Hole' in the part, that hole is defined by a sketch with two ctr marks, so it creates two holes. The correct qtys of bolts, nuts etc are in the parts list.

I could work around and create two bolted connections.

The top level assembly is: 080_0000INV3D000000005.iam

[jan_priban1]

Hi Chris,

we are sorry you are not able to create 2 bolted connections (BC) by one jump (even edit BC shows 2 BCs). So please, so far (on version you have = R 2022) create 2 separate BCs. In new R 2023 we made some BC improvements, I just revalidated using your dataset that one BC command can create 2 connections via "Follow Pattern" options - video showing that enclosed.

Regards

Jan Priban