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*Schumacher, Ken
Message 1 of 17 (52 Views)

Artwork - Silkscreen

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11-12-2002 11:27 PM
Here's my situation:

I have a formed sheet metal part that has to be
powder coated and then have stripes silk-screened on it.

I have tried to "cut" .0001" deep stripes on the part, (so that I could
assign a different color)
but after doing so, it doesn't unfold the part.
(I posted a jpg in CF under "stripes")

Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?

Would this be a good application for the decal thing?

Thanks,
-Ken
*Dotson, Sean
Message 2 of 17 (52 Views)

Re: Artwork - Silkscreen

11-12-2002 11:29 PM in reply to: *Schumacher, Ken
I would definitely use the decal. In reality you aren't cutting anything
into the material so why do so in the model? I can't comment on why it
won't unfold as I haven't looked at the CF post.

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
news:CACCD43BA23D07AB94E6BA07EAD1F051@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Here's my situation:
>
> I have a formed sheet metal part that has to be
> powder coated and then have stripes silk-screened on it.
>
> I have tried to "cut" .0001" deep stripes on the part, (so that I could
> assign a different color)
> but after doing so, it doesn't unfold the part.
> (I posted a jpg in CF under "stripes")
>
> Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?
>
> Would this be a good application for the decal thing?
>
> Thanks,
> -Ken
>
>
*Schumacher, Ken
Message 3 of 17 (52 Views)

Re:

11-12-2002 11:34 PM in reply to: *Schumacher, Ken
Sean,
The post in CF just shows what I'm trying to accomplish.
I'll have to look into that decal thing.

"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:6258CD1AFC4136DC58CA12398254CADF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I would definitely use the decal. In reality you aren't cutting anything
> into the material so why do so in the model? I can't comment on why it
> won't unfold as I haven't looked at the CF post.
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> ...sleep is for the weak..
> -----------------------------------------
> "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> news:CACCD43BA23D07AB94E6BA07EAD1F051@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Here's my situation:
> >
> > I have a formed sheet metal part that has to be
> > powder coated and then have stripes silk-screened on it.
> >
> > I have tried to "cut" .0001" deep stripes on the part, (so that I could
> > assign a different color)
> > but after doing so, it doesn't unfold the part.
> > (I posted a jpg in CF under "stripes")
> >
> > Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?
> >
> > Would this be a good application for the decal thing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Ken
> >
> >
>
>
*Schumacher, Ken
Message 4 of 17 (52 Views)

Re:

11-12-2002 11:36 PM in reply to: *Schumacher, Ken
Sean,

Do you know off hand if the decal can be projected,
or will it automatically wrap around the forms?


"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:6258CD1AFC4136DC58CA12398254CADF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I would definitely use the decal. In reality you aren't cutting anything
> into the material so why do so in the model? I can't comment on why it
> won't unfold as I haven't looked at the CF post.
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> ...sleep is for the weak..
> -----------------------------------------
> "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> news:CACCD43BA23D07AB94E6BA07EAD1F051@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Here's my situation:
> >
> > I have a formed sheet metal part that has to be
> > powder coated and then have stripes silk-screened on it.
> >
> > I have tried to "cut" .0001" deep stripes on the part, (so that I could
> > assign a different color)
> > but after doing so, it doesn't unfold the part.
> > (I posted a jpg in CF under "stripes")
> >
> > Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?
> >
> > Would this be a good application for the decal thing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Ken
> >
> >
>
>
*Dotson, Sean
Message 5 of 17 (52 Views)

Re:

11-12-2002 11:39 PM in reply to: *Schumacher, Ken
Yes you can make it wrap to all three of the faces (the two flat ones and
the angled one)

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
news:4E37F60D58082E3BB88842D5E7ACFBB7@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Sean,
>
> Do you know off hand if the decal can be projected,
> or will it automatically wrap around the forms?
>
>
> "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> news:6258CD1AFC4136DC58CA12398254CADF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I would definitely use the decal. In reality you aren't cutting
anything
> > into the material so why do so in the model? I can't comment on why it
> > won't unfold as I haven't looked at the CF post.
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > -----------------------------------------
> > "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> > news:CACCD43BA23D07AB94E6BA07EAD1F051@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Here's my situation:
> > >
> > > I have a formed sheet metal part that has to be
> > > powder coated and then have stripes silk-screened on it.
> > >
> > > I have tried to "cut" .0001" deep stripes on the part, (so that I
could
> > > assign a different color)
> > > but after doing so, it doesn't unfold the part.
> > > (I posted a jpg in CF under "stripes")
> > >
> > > Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?
> > >
> > > Would this be a good application for the decal thing?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Ken
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Schumacher, Ken
Message 6 of 17 (52 Views)

Re:

11-12-2002 11:50 PM in reply to: *Schumacher, Ken
That's cool, but can I just project it?
I'm envisioning that I will create a separate "part"
for the decal, and then apply that in an assembly.
If it were to wrap, I would have to figure out some kind of allowance for
the bending of the decal,...no?


"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:8C6322C97655D4A7D3E2D27054760A3E@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Yes you can make it wrap to all three of the faces (the two flat ones and
> the angled one)
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> ...sleep is for the weak..
> -----------------------------------------
> "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> news:4E37F60D58082E3BB88842D5E7ACFBB7@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Sean,
> >
> > Do you know off hand if the decal can be projected,
> > or will it automatically wrap around the forms?
> >
> >
> > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > news:6258CD1AFC4136DC58CA12398254CADF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > I would definitely use the decal. In reality you aren't cutting
> anything
> > > into the material so why do so in the model? I can't comment on why
it
> > > won't unfold as I haven't looked at the CF post.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> > > news:CACCD43BA23D07AB94E6BA07EAD1F051@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Here's my situation:
> > > >
> > > > I have a formed sheet metal part that has to be
> > > > powder coated and then have stripes silk-screened on it.
> > > >
> > > > I have tried to "cut" .0001" deep stripes on the part, (so that I
> could
> > > > assign a different color)
> > > > but after doing so, it doesn't unfold the part.
> > > > (I posted a jpg in CF under "stripes")
> > > >
> > > > Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?
> > > >
> > > > Would this be a good application for the decal thing?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Dotson, Sean
Message 7 of 17 (52 Views)

Re:

11-12-2002 11:54 PM in reply to: *Schumacher, Ken
That's not how decals work. You apply them to individual parts, not to the
whole assembly. See Cf for an example..

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
news:C860E96DD2253BDB65A1423F8948699E@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> That's cool, but can I just project it?
> I'm envisioning that I will create a separate "part"
> for the decal, and then apply that in an assembly.
> If it were to wrap, I would have to figure out some kind of allowance for
> the bending of the decal,...no?
>
>
> "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> news:8C6322C97655D4A7D3E2D27054760A3E@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Yes you can make it wrap to all three of the faces (the two flat ones
and
> > the angled one)
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > -----------------------------------------
> > "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> > news:4E37F60D58082E3BB88842D5E7ACFBB7@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Sean,
> > >
> > > Do you know off hand if the decal can be projected,
> > > or will it automatically wrap around the forms?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > > news:6258CD1AFC4136DC58CA12398254CADF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > I would definitely use the decal. In reality you aren't cutting
> > anything
> > > > into the material so why do so in the model? I can't comment on why
> it
> > > > won't unfold as I haven't looked at the CF post.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> > > > news:CACCD43BA23D07AB94E6BA07EAD1F051@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > Here's my situation:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a formed sheet metal part that has to be
> > > > > powder coated and then have stripes silk-screened on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have tried to "cut" .0001" deep stripes on the part, (so that I
> > could
> > > > > assign a different color)
> > > > > but after doing so, it doesn't unfold the part.
> > > > > (I posted a jpg in CF under "stripes")
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would this be a good application for the decal thing?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Ken
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Schumacher, Ken
Message 8 of 17 (52 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 12:36 AM in reply to: *Schumacher, Ken
If I have this correct, you can't create (or design) the decal itself in
Inventor?
You have to use a bitmap, Word document or Excel spreadsheet?


"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:08D61231810A84F4549C8CFA9B45F632@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> That's not how decals work. You apply them to individual parts, not to
the
> whole assembly. See Cf for an example..
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> ...sleep is for the weak..
> -----------------------------------------
> "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> news:C860E96DD2253BDB65A1423F8948699E@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > That's cool, but can I just project it?
> > I'm envisioning that I will create a separate "part"
> > for the decal, and then apply that in an assembly.
> > If it were to wrap, I would have to figure out some kind of allowance
for
> > the bending of the decal,...no?
> >
> >
> > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > news:8C6322C97655D4A7D3E2D27054760A3E@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Yes you can make it wrap to all three of the faces (the two flat ones
> and
> > > the angled one)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> > > news:4E37F60D58082E3BB88842D5E7ACFBB7@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Sean,
> > > >
> > > > Do you know off hand if the decal can be projected,
> > > > or will it automatically wrap around the forms?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > > > news:6258CD1AFC4136DC58CA12398254CADF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > I would definitely use the decal. In reality you aren't cutting
> > > anything
> > > > > into the material so why do so in the model? I can't comment on
why
> > it
> > > > > won't unfold as I haven't looked at the CF post.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > > > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > > "Ken Schumacher" wrote in
message
> > > > > news:CACCD43BA23D07AB94E6BA07EAD1F051@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > Here's my situation:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a formed sheet metal part that has to be
> > > > > > powder coated and then have stripes silk-screened on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have tried to "cut" .0001" deep stripes on the part, (so that
I
> > > could
> > > > > > assign a different color)
> > > > > > but after doing so, it doesn't unfold the part.
> > > > > > (I posted a jpg in CF under "stripes")
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would this be a good application for the decal thing?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Ken
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Dotson, Sean
Message 9 of 17 (52 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 12:36 AM in reply to: *Schumacher, Ken
That is correct AFAIK

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
news:431D8E330CC4843EA6EC007F7FD30623@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> If I have this correct, you can't create (or design) the decal itself in
> Inventor?
> You have to use a bitmap, Word document or Excel spreadsheet?
>
>
> "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> news:08D61231810A84F4549C8CFA9B45F632@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > That's not how decals work. You apply them to individual parts, not to
> the
> > whole assembly. See Cf for an example..
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > -----------------------------------------
> > "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> > news:C860E96DD2253BDB65A1423F8948699E@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > That's cool, but can I just project it?
> > > I'm envisioning that I will create a separate "part"
> > > for the decal, and then apply that in an assembly.
> > > If it were to wrap, I would have to figure out some kind of allowance
> for
> > > the bending of the decal,...no?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > > news:8C6322C97655D4A7D3E2D27054760A3E@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Yes you can make it wrap to all three of the faces (the two flat
ones
> > and
> > > > the angled one)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > "Ken Schumacher" wrote in message
> > > > news:4E37F60D58082E3BB88842D5E7ACFBB7@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > Sean,
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know off hand if the decal can be projected,
> > > > > or will it automatically wrap around the forms?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > > > > news:6258CD1AFC4136DC58CA12398254CADF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > I would definitely use the decal. In reality you aren't cutting
> > > > anything
> > > > > > into the material so why do so in the model? I can't comment on
> why
> > > it
> > > > > > won't unfold as I haven't looked at the CF post.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > > > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > > > > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > > > "Ken Schumacher" wrote in
> message
> > > > > > news:CACCD43BA23D07AB94E6BA07EAD1F051@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > > Here's my situation:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a formed sheet metal part that has to be
> > > > > > > powder coated and then have stripes silk-screened on it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have tried to "cut" .0001" deep stripes on the part, (so
that
> I
> > > > could
> > > > > > > assign a different color)
> > > > > > > but after doing so, it doesn't unfold the part.
> > > > > > > (I posted a jpg in CF under "stripes")
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone else have any experience with this type of situation?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would this be a good application for the decal thing?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > -Ken
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Hinterhoeller, Richard
Message 10 of 17 (52 Views)

Re:

11-13-2002 12:49 AM in reply to: *Schumacher, Ken
I suppose he could model it in IV and make a bitmap of the image.

Seems like a bas ackwards way to do it but...

Richard

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