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Altering a BASE Part? Modeling failure in ASM?

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Message 1 of 26
bhowe
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Altering a BASE Part? Modeling failure in ASM?

HI All,

 

I brought in a STP file from a supplier. It opened it in Inventor (IV pro 2010), everything looks good. The file tree shows a number of BASE parts. The file has some unwanted geometry (removeable parts). I want to delete them. I was thinking I could Extrude (CUT) them away, but I keep getting errors. For instance "Extrusion could not be buit, Modeling failure in ASM, redefine input". Any ideas on how I could make this new IPT so I can delete some details of it?

Thanks

Bill

Thank You

Bill

Inventor 2011 Pro 64 bit
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Message 2 of 26
blair
in reply to: bhowe

Check your direction of your Extrussion/Cut. The software has been known to Flip the direction.


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Message 3 of 26
JDMather
in reply to: bhowe

Do the parts pass quality check (green chechmarks)?

http://au.autodesk.com/?nd=class&session_id=3056

 

Can you attach the original file(s) here?

 

Does Delete Face with Heal option work?


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Message 4 of 26
bhowe
in reply to: JDMather

Apparently the file is too large to upload.

Thank You

Bill

Inventor 2011 Pro 64 bit
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Intel Core 2 CPU 6700 @2.66GHz
7.93 GHz Ram
ATI FireGL V7200
Message 5 of 26
bhowe
in reply to: JDMather

I tried the Delete face with Heal option. It seems to work, but there are so many faces it would take too long.

As I mentioned, I tried using the extrusion CUT on the part. Surprisingly it works in some areas of the part and not others. In certain areas I get the ASM error. In others it cuts fine. I tried using sketch planes and the part surface to place my sketch on for cutting. It just doesn't work for me in  certain places.

 

Bill

Thank You

Bill

Inventor 2011 Pro 64 bit
Windows XP Pro 64 bit
Dell Precision PWS390
Intel Core 2 CPU 6700 @2.66GHz
7.93 GHz Ram
ATI FireGL V7200
Message 6 of 26
JDMather
in reply to: bhowe


@bhowe wrote:

Apparently the file is too large to upload.


I can take a look if you send it to jmather_at_pct_dot_edu

I suspect that someone from Autodesk will also come along and express interest in the file.


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Message 7 of 26
jakefowler
in reply to: bhowe

Hi Bill,

 

JD is right; there could be a modelling bug here, so if it's possible to send us the part that would be great. If the file is too big to attach to this forum, it's possible to send it to us via Buzzsaw. If you don't have a Buzzsaw account, please drop me an email and I can arrange one for you.

 

Many thanks!

Jake Fowler

Autodesk Shape Manager QA



Jake Fowler
Principal Experience Designer
Fusion 360
Autodesk

Message 8 of 26
bhowe
in reply to: jakefowler

Gentlemen,

 

I forwarded the troublesome file to your emails.

 

Thank You

Bill

Thank You

Bill

Inventor 2011 Pro 64 bit
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Dell Precision PWS390
Intel Core 2 CPU 6700 @2.66GHz
7.93 GHz Ram
ATI FireGL V7200
Message 9 of 26
jakefowler
in reply to: bhowe

Hi Bill,

 

I don't appear to have received your email; would it be possible to resend it?

 

Many thanks!

Jake Fowler

Autodesk Shape Manager QA



Jake Fowler
Principal Experience Designer
Fusion 360
Autodesk

Message 10 of 26
JDMather
in reply to: bhowe

Nothing here either.


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Message 11 of 26
bhowe
in reply to: JDMather

I resent the email. Let me know if you don't get it soon. Is there a size limit on your email account?

Thank You

Bill

Inventor 2011 Pro 64 bit
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Intel Core 2 CPU 6700 @2.66GHz
7.93 GHz Ram
ATI FireGL V7200
Message 12 of 26
bhowe
in reply to: bhowe

JD or Jake, did you get my email with the part?

Thank You

Bill

Inventor 2011 Pro 64 bit
Windows XP Pro 64 bit
Dell Precision PWS390
Intel Core 2 CPU 6700 @2.66GHz
7.93 GHz Ram
ATI FireGL V7200
Message 13 of 26
bhowe
in reply to: bhowe

JD or Jake, did you get the file?

Thank You

Bill

Inventor 2011 Pro 64 bit
Windows XP Pro 64 bit
Dell Precision PWS390
Intel Core 2 CPU 6700 @2.66GHz
7.93 GHz Ram
ATI FireGL V7200
Message 14 of 26
jakefowler
in reply to: bhowe

Hi Bill,

 

Sorry for the delay in replying. I haven't received any emails yet; you could be right about the email size limit.

 

What we usually do for transferring sizeable data is create an Autodesk Buzzsaw account (which gives you a file-posting folder on one of our servers); if you'd like to go down this route, just drop me an email and I can setup an account for you, and send some instructions.

 

Alternatively, if you have access to your own FTP or web hosting site, perhaps you could post the file there? (assuming it's not sensitive data, of course)

 

Many thanks for your perseverance, it's much appreciated!

 

Jake Fowler



Jake Fowler
Principal Experience Designer
Fusion 360
Autodesk

Message 15 of 26
fdesigns
in reply to: bhowe

Running Inventor 2009 with a similar error. I am unable to extrude past the distance of the base part. Any idea's?

Message 16 of 26
JDMather
in reply to: fdesigns


@fdesigns wrote:

.... Any idea's?



Here is one idea - attach your file here.


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Message 17 of 26
fdesigns
in reply to: JDMather

This isnt the first time that this has occured. Is there a proper solution to this issue, or would i have to submit a file everytime there is an error?

Message 18 of 26
JDMather
in reply to: fdesigns

#1 - I don't see anything to extrude.
#2 - When I create something to extrude - it works fine for me.

#3 - You didn't run quality check on the import (no green check mark next to Base).  (see post 2 of this thread)


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Message 19 of 26
JDMather
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When I run a Quality Check - I get the longest list of Issues I have ever seen on an import.

 

Quality Check.png


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Message 20 of 26
JDMather
in reply to: JDMather

This part is missing faces.

 

Missing Faces.PNG


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