Add-in for derived part positioning

[Anonymous]

We have written an add-in that allows you to specify position and
non-uniform scaling while creating a derived part. This has some bug fixes
and an enhancement over what was posted in the beta forum. You could
download it from http://www.mcadforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5023



Some potential uses of this add-in include:



1.. To simulate an iFeature where you add or remove material - use Sculpt
to add and Split to remove material. Unlike iFeature you could edit the
source and make the changes be reflected in the derived part.
2.. To simulate an iFeature that places a sketch - useful for designing
frames.
3.. To design a progressive die - you might want to place, with relative
displacements, multiple parts representing different stages (or
configurations) of a formed sheet metal part
4.. To realign (rotate) a part - sometimes skeletally driven parts (for
example, four-bar linkage members) are not aligned with their "natural"
coordinate system, causing skewed drawing views
5.. To derive a part with different scaling factors in X, Y and Z
directions, which is useful in mold design
6.. To integrate two skeleton systems that do not share the same
coordinate system
7.. To create scaled sketches (this should become useable after R11 SP1)

[Anonymous]

This addin is for 10 or 11
thx
"udaya gunasena (autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5139870@discussion.autodesk.com...
We have written an add-in that allows you to specify position and
non-uniform scaling while creating a derived part. This has some bug fixes
and an enhancement over what was posted in the beta forum. You could
download it from http://www.mcadforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5023



Some potential uses of this add-in include:



1.. To simulate an iFeature where you add or remove material - use Sculpt
to add and Split to remove material. Unlike iFeature you could edit the

source and make the changes be reflected in the derived part.
2.. To simulate an iFeature that places a sketch - useful for designing
frames.
3.. To design a progressive die - you might want to place, with relative
displacements, multiple parts representing different stages (or
configurations) of a formed sheet metal part
4.. To realign (rotate) a part - sometimes skeletally driven parts (for
example, four-bar linkage members) are not aligned with their "natural"

coordinate system, causing skewed drawing views
5.. To derive a part with different scaling factors in X, Y and Z
directions, which is useful in mold design
6.. To integrate two skeleton systems that do not share the same
coordinate system
7.. To create scaled sketches (this should become useable after R11 SP1)

[Anonymous]

It should work with 10 (and perhaps 9 or 8, as well), but functionality like
being able to derive sketches and work features would not be there.


"Chris (IV10 Pro. SP3a)" wrote in message
news:5140285@discussion.autodesk.com...
This addin is for 10 or 11
thx
"udaya gunasena (autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5139870@discussion.autodesk.com...
We have written an add-in that allows you to specify position and
non-uniform scaling while creating a derived part. This has some bug fixes
and an enhancement over what was posted in the beta forum. You could
download it from http://www.mcadforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5023



Some potential uses of this add-in include:



1.. To simulate an iFeature where you add or remove material - use Sculpt
to add and Split to remove material. Unlike iFeature you could edit the

source and make the changes be reflected in the derived part.
2.. To simulate an iFeature that places a sketch - useful for designing
frames.
3.. To design a progressive die - you might want to place, with relative
displacements, multiple parts representing different stages (or
configurations) of a formed sheet metal part
4.. To realign (rotate) a part - sometimes skeletally driven parts (for
example, four-bar linkage members) are not aligned with their "natural"

coordinate system, causing skewed drawing views
5.. To derive a part with different scaling factors in X, Y and Z
directions, which is useful in mold design
6.. To integrate two skeleton systems that do not share the same
coordinate system
7.. To create scaled sketches (this should become useable after R11 SP1)

[Anonymous]

It's still nice to see ADSK staffers writing add-ins in their spare time.


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"udaya gunasena (autodesk)" wrote in message news:5140553@discussion.autodesk.com...
It should work with 10 (and perhaps 9 or 8, as well), but functionality like
being able to derive sketches and work features would not be there.


"Chris (IV10 Pro. SP3a)" wrote in message
news:5140285@discussion.autodesk.com...
This addin is for 10 or 11
thx
"udaya gunasena (autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5139870@discussion.autodesk.com...
We have written an add-in that allows you to specify position and
non-uniform scaling while creating a derived part. This has some bug fixes
and an enhancement over what was posted in the beta forum. You could
download it from http://www.mcadforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5023



Some potential uses of this add-in include:



1.. To simulate an iFeature where you add or remove material - use Sculpt
to add and Split to remove material. Unlike iFeature you could edit the

source and make the changes be reflected in the derived part.
2.. To simulate an iFeature that places a sketch - useful for designing
frames.
3.. To design a progressive die - you might want to place, with relative
displacements, multiple parts representing different stages (or
configurations) of a formed sheet metal part
4.. To realign (rotate) a part - sometimes skeletally driven parts (for
example, four-bar linkage members) are not aligned with their "natural"

coordinate system, causing skewed drawing views
5.. To derive a part with different scaling factors in X, Y and Z
directions, which is useful in mold design
6.. To integrate two skeleton systems that do not share the same
coordinate system
7.. To create scaled sketches (this should become useable after R11 SP1)

[Anonymous]

Thanks Udaya.

I know that you know that I know that you know about moving derives.

Although I was lambasted last time I asked about this…I certainly need it. Not just for strips. Gots to make all kinds of complex shapes that carry across multiple parts. Ifeatures is a trap, and you can’t always build parts around a derive.

[jrapert]

Just wondering. Is that an IV screen shot?
If it is what I think it is do you find THAT package more die-designer-friendly?
Julian

[Anonymous]

Hard to say… only had it 3 months and it is defiantly more complicated.

However, within 2 weeks, I bit the bullet and used it to draw a complex, 20 station strip with incremental crush forming using 2 part files and 1 assy file. Completely associative to the finished part dimensions. I’ve done 4 more since with little problem.

And it allows derives to be moved. IV’s deriving system is much better though. One day I’ll see how good Udaya’s add-in works. It will have to wait for next winter now… it’s time for outdoor games.

[3DAli]

Hi there,

does this Addin work with IV2013 Pro.?

Thanks

[JDMather]

Positioning is now built into Inventor - Move Bodies or solids or whatever it is called (I don't have Inventor in front of me at the moment.

I think there is an SDK for non-uniform scaling - you might take a look in your SDK folder.

[Curtis_Waguespack]

Hi 3DAli,

Here is an article for the tool JDMather mentioned. It speaks to imported components, but can be used to move or reposition any solid body.

http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com/2011/06/change-origin-of-imported-model.html

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

[3DAli]

Thanks a lot it was really an informative article, however, I wend through SDK folder and when I install Derive Scale Positon Addin, nothing will add on my IV, even in Addins list nothing shows up , I had it before I upgrade to IV2013 and it was easy and powerful, but I cannot get it to install anymore and I'm wondering why.

Thanks anyways for all the support

Regards

Ali

[3DAli]

I forgot to mention that the reason that article doesnt work for me at the moment is, I'm dealing with Derived Sketch reorientation/positioning/scale , not a solid body and thats exactly what derived part scale/position was capable of.

Thanks

[udayag]

Please see if this discussion thread has anything useful:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Autodesk-Inventor/SDK-user-tools-not-showing-up-in-2012/td-p/3081698

I believe that you need to have at least the.NET platform 2.0 installed.

I assume that you know about SDK which needs to be installed using UserTools.msi typically found under C:\Users\Public\Documents\Autodesk\Inventor 2012\SDK\.

Make sure that the old addin is uninstalled first. I am not sure if cleaning the registry (for entries referring to derivedpart_sp) is necessary.

Sorry, I cannot be of much help here. Good luck!

[udayag]

Perhaps this post is quite relevant -- apparently there is a GUID collision with another addin in Inventor 2013. Try to install the addin which Rocky Zhang has posted there. Thanks.

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Autodesk-Inventor-Customization/General-Tools-in-IV2013/td-p/3450958

[3DAli]

Thanks a lot, absolutely worked for me.

cheers