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2012 Frame Generator - G_L Parameter won't update

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Justin.Williams
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2012 Frame Generator - G_L Parameter won't update

There seems to be a bug with the frame generator in 2012. When using the frame generator, the G_L parameter in each part should always update based on the line that it is attached to from the skeleton. Well in 2012, the frame member's length will update (the B_L parameter updates), but the G_L parameter will no longer update, it stays at its original value from when it was first placed.

 

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

I've attached the file as an example. The Height of the skeleton was originally 121.370 in, and now it is 82 in. The parameter for the outside vertical legs will not update from 121.370 in to 82 in. I've tested this a few times with the same results.

Owner / Designer
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Message 2 of 26

how have you got 2012? I can only assume its the beta copy and you are posting here cos the beta has ended? which doesn't make much sense because you are likely to get some help from the beta site than here.


Scott Moyse
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Message 3 of 26
Dennis_Jeffrey
in reply to: scottmoyse

Inventor 2012 is available for download to subscription customers. I downloaded mine Tuesday.

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XP64 SP2, GeForce 9800GT-1GB, Driver: 6.14.12.7061, 8GB Ram, AMD Athlon II 3.2 Ghz
Laptop: Win7-64 Pro, 4GB, ATI Graphics on board, 2012 Ultimate, IV2011 or 2010 Pro, all SP's
Message 4 of 26

Yeah I work for a reseller but just finally got a chance to install and mess around with the non-beta today.
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Modern 3Design
Message 5 of 26

I can confirm this on a new FG Assembly. I started with a height of 122, created the components, saved, exited and reopened. B_L changes, but G_L does not.

 

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XP64 SP2, GeForce 9800GT-1GB, Driver: 6.14.12.7061, 8GB Ram, AMD Athlon II 3.2 Ghz
Laptop: Win7-64 Pro, 4GB, ATI Graphics on board, 2012 Ultimate, IV2011 or 2010 Pro, all SP's
Message 6 of 26

Thanks Dennis. I will be creating a ticket with Autodesk for this one - I will post again when I hear something back.
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Message 7 of 26

I'll do the same...

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Laptop: Win7-64 Pro, 4GB, ATI Graphics on board, 2012 Ultimate, IV2011 or 2010 Pro, all SP's
Message 8 of 26
scottmoyse
in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

its not on my sub page


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Message 9 of 26
scottmoyse
in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

bloody sucks, our download for Vault 2012 has been there for days now, but no Inventor 2012. proper frustrating!


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Message 10 of 26
jPitcher
in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

Hi, is there a fix for this as yet?

 

John

Message 11 of 26

The Inventor 2012 Hotfix for this issue is now available from the Data & Downloads site:

 

 http://usa.autodesk.com/getdoc/id=DL17089522  

 

Best regards,

Alessandro



Alessandro Gasso
Fusion 360 – Simulation/Generative Design Adoption Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 12 of 26
bobvdd
in reply to: alessandro.gasso

To clean-up existing 2012 frame generator assemblies that were created before the hotfix was applied, use the VBA macro as documented on our support blog.

 

Bob




Bob Van der Donck


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Message 13 of 26
scottmoyse
in reply to: bobvdd

Nice one guys!


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Message 14 of 26
Justin.Williams
in reply to: bobvdd

Thanks Bob and Allesandro.

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Message 15 of 26
stian-j
in reply to: Justin.Williams

The problem that occurs when using two end treatmens on the same profile end still exists. It still shows the wrong length! The length is correct when using one end treatment, but when using two the wrong length appears in the parts list. But the correct length is displayed when using "Frame Member Info". How can I access this parameter? It's amazing Autodesk hasn't fixed this, it's been a bug for years and makes FG unsuable! 

Message 16 of 26
bobvdd
in reply to: stian-j

I have posted a possible solution for double mitred beams on our support blog

 

http://beinginventive.typepad.com/being-inventive/2011/06/double-mitered-frames-report-the-wrong-fra...

 

However the proposed solution is not without risk as will not work properly for curved beams.
Let us know what you think.

 

Bob




Bob Van der Donck


Principal UX designer DMG group
Message 17 of 26
kdlklm
in reply to: bobvdd

I tried this, but it didn't seem to work. Has anyone else had problems with this workaround. I am trying to update an existing frame assembly.

Message 18 of 26
stian-j
in reply to: bobvdd

Finally something that works. I've implemented it in my template, works great! I still think it's strange Autodesk haven't fixed this after several years with the same bug. But, at least I have a workaround now..

Message 19 of 26
admin
in reply to: kdlklm


@kdlklm wrote:

I tried this, but it didn't seem to work. Has anyone else had problems with this workaround. I am trying to update an existing frame assembly.


Same thing here, the VBA *tries* to do something, you can see Inventor thinking about it, but it doesn't update the G_L values. Have tried this on the same frame on 2 different computers. Using Windows 7 64bit on both machines.

 

Would be great to have this working as we had created a lot of large frames before the hotfix was released! 😞

Message 20 of 26
subsales
in reply to: admin

adam,

 

Can you post here  a mini-data set or you can set it to me at bob.van.der.donck@autodesk.com?

We need to figure out why my macro works on some assemblies and not on others.

It might be a small oversight from my side but right now I am in the dark  on what that could be.

 

Thanks.

Bob

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