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Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

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08-18-2011 07:13 AM

How I want to use Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD via Fusion:

 

1 - Create your 3D model in Inventor.

2 - Open it in Fusion and convert to dwg.

3 - Xref that 3D model dwg into AutoCAD. Bang, you have inventor model in AutoCAD.

 

But the problem is when I need to edit that model that was created in Inventor.

 

Is there a way to edit that dwg 3D model back in Inventor with full parametrics so the xref'd 3D model in AutoCAD always remains live?

 

I have tried importing/opening the dwg back in Inventor. Sometimes it works for part files but sometimes it gives an error. When I try it with assemblies I get the following message:

"This DWG file edits an Inventor assembly. Presently only Inventor parts can be used with Change Manager."

 

It would be so nice if it would work with assemblies such as Frame Generator, etc. It would be nice if this always worked and could always be used.

 

Is there any way to do this? :smileysad:

Franc
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bobvdd
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Re: Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

08-18-2011 10:12 AM in reply to: FProcp

Hi Frank,

 

Is there any particular reason in your workflow why you want to use Fusion other than for converting to a DWG?

If you are not interested in modifying the geometry in Fusion itself, I would simply leave Fusion out of the picture and just let Inventor talk directly to AutoCAD Mechanical.

 

This can easily be done with the Inventor Link functionality that is available in ACADM.

 

Explore the commands AMIVLINK and AMIVUPDATE. This will get you what you want even with Frame Generator assemblies.

 

Cheers

Bob

 

 

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Re: Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

08-19-2011 03:08 AM in reply to: bobvdd

Thankyou, that is very interesting.

Are these links not available in plain AutoCAD ?

Franc
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Re: Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

08-19-2011 08:28 AM in reply to: FProcp

No they are not unfortunately as can be seen from the use of the AM prefix (we tend to prefix ACADM commands with that prefix). I forgot to mention that you can access the functionalityin ACADM  from the red "A" icon by selecting the New > Inventor Link menu.

 

Cheers

Bob

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Re: Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

08-19-2011 03:21 PM in reply to: bobvdd

But, once created, can they not be opened in vanilla acad? (including the 3-d model??)

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Re: Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

08-19-2011 03:42 PM in reply to: rdyson

From my cursory testing, when opening Inventor linked ACADM files in vanilla ACAD, I did not see the Inventor geometry show up on the ACAD side, so you really need to do this in ACADM and stick to ACADM.

 

Bob 

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Re: Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

08-20-2011 05:52 AM in reply to: bobvdd

Thanks for the clarification, Bob.

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Re: Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

08-20-2011 08:19 AM in reply to: bobvdd

Okay, I can link Inventor models into AutoCAD Mech using AMIVLINK. These models are live and can be updated when the Inventor model changes. I knew this function was been available for many years but I've never really used it. I have two issues:

 

1 - Where I work not everyone has 3D modelling software. We have a lot of CAD Monkey's (oops, design draftspeople) that detail models only and don't have AutoCAD mechanical. Is there any way to make this work in AutoCAD Vanilla?

 

2 - When I use "Viewbase" in the layout of the dwg with the linked Inventor model, it will not create a 3D view. WTF? it's a 3D model, why doesn't it recognise it. Autodesk has let me down again. So many half hearted efforts that don't really do a complete job.

 

Please improve this.

Franc
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Re: Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

08-22-2011 02:49 AM in reply to: FProcp

The VIEWBASE command is new in AutoCAD 2012. This new command will magically generate a 2D drawing from your 3D objects. It can even generate views from other Inventor ipt or iam models. But, it cannot generate a 2D view from an Inventor model that has been bought into the drawing using AMIVLINK ?

Please make  this possible :smileyindifferent:

It would be so good if we could do this. Otherwise we'll have to convert the Inventor models to 3D dwg files with Fusion and then bring them into AutoCAD. Then can create 2D views, no problem?

Franc
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Re: Inventor 3D models in AutoCAD with Fusion

08-22-2011 09:53 AM in reply to: FProcp

Frank,

 

You could use the good old SOLVIEW command to create drawing views of Inventor linked 3D models.

This will allow you to see the model both in modelspace and paperspace.

 

As far as I understand the VIEWBASE command, it does not give you the opportunity to see the 3D model in modelspace.

 

In both routes you would still need to recur to DIMREASSOCIATE or grip editing to update your 2D dimensions after the Inventor model changes.

 

Cheers

Bob

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