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*Stachoni, Matt
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Whoa! Internet Explorer extravaganza when creating remote installation deploy

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12-08-2000 05:41 AM
Okay, I'm fooling around with network deployments of ADT2i for my office, and I
hit something that is TRULY bizarre. For now I'm trying to get an installable
package on the server that I can test various network configurations out on.

1. I launch NetSetup, select Client and Autodesk License Manager Installation.

2. I checked "Configure for single user without License Manager." I'm wary of
using ADLM given the woes I have been reading.

Yeah, I know it probably violates the license agreement, but I have more than
enough copies of ADT2i, and I'm just experimenting right now anyway.

3. Set client deployment location to a network URL:
\\ServerName\Pcsetup\apps\cad\adt2i

4. Set NWCLient.LOG as default setting back to installation point.

5. Do not configure ACADSERVER system variable

6. Set client installation path to C:\Program Files\AutoCAD Architectural 2

7. Do a Custom Installation, and uncheck Metric content and French Canadian
dictionary. Install all other components. Enter serial number and CD Key, also
enter personal information.

8. Set Bulletin Board location to a Default.html file on the server
(\\ServerName\Support\Adt2\Web\default.html). Don't check the "Apply CAD Manager
Control to Today." Allow access to Point A Services

At this point, ADT2 tries to gather some registration info (which I fill in) and
install to the server all the files from the CD. BUT, somewhere it tries to
throw up a page called "RTQUIT.HTML" which doesn't exist, but Explorer keeps
launching window after window, until the system runs out of resources. On a
512MB machine, it probably throws up 300 instances of IE. It still copies files
to the server, but WOW, what a mess! I couldn't even take a screenshot because
it hammered my poor system into the ground .

Has anyone else seen this?

Matt
stachoni@bellatlantic.net
mstachoni@beyerdesign.com
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 2 of 10 (133 Views)

Re: Whoa! Internet Explorer extravaganza when creating remote installation de

12-08-2000 06:11 AM in reply to: *Stachoni, Matt
Matt,

Is this a machine with MSIE 5.5? If so that is the real reason that this
occurs when using Register Today and is documented in the online Knowledge
Base (http://support01.autodesk.com/KnowledgeBase.asp) document TS59347. It
is not a network issue. The Service Pack 1 fixes many of the MSIE 5.5
issues.

Sincerely,

Shaan Hurley
Autodesk Beta Programs
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com

Please keep the discussions in the discussion group.
"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
news:4bk23tshlgbqatunrd3o0glktmojk89n4j@4ax.com...
> Okay, I'm fooling around with network deployments of ADT2i for my office,
and I
> hit something that is TRULY bizarre. For now I'm trying to get an
installable
> package on the server that I can test various network configurations out
on.
>
> 1. I launch NetSetup, select Client and Autodesk License Manager
Installation.
>
> 2. I checked "Configure for single user without License Manager." I'm wary
of
> using ADLM given the woes I have been reading.
>
> Yeah, I know it probably violates the license agreement, but I have more
than
> enough copies of ADT2i, and I'm just experimenting right now anyway.
>
> 3. Set client deployment location to a network URL:
> \\ServerName\Pcsetup\apps\cad\adt2i
>
> 4. Set NWCLient.LOG as default setting back to installation point.
>
> 5. Do not configure ACADSERVER system variable
>
> 6. Set client installation path to C:\Program Files\AutoCAD Architectural
2
>
> 7. Do a Custom Installation, and uncheck Metric content and French
Canadian
> dictionary. Install all other components. Enter serial number and CD Key,
also
> enter personal information.
>
> 8. Set Bulletin Board location to a Default.html file on the server
> (\\ServerName\Support\Adt2\Web\default.html). Don't check the "Apply CAD
Manager
> Control to Today." Allow access to Point A Services
>
> At this point, ADT2 tries to gather some registration info (which I fill
in) and
> install to the server all the files from the CD. BUT, somewhere it tries
to
> throw up a page called "RTQUIT.HTML" which doesn't exist, but Explorer
keeps
> launching window after window, until the system runs out of resources. On
a
> 512MB machine, it probably throws up 300 instances of IE. It still copies
files
> to the server, but WOW, what a mess! I couldn't even take a screenshot
because
> it hammered my poor system into the ground .
>
> Has anyone else seen this?
>
> Matt
> stachoni@bellatlantic.net
> mstachoni@beyerdesign.com
*Stachoni, Matt
Message 3 of 10 (133 Views)

Re:

12-08-2000 07:05 AM in reply to: *Stachoni, Matt
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 14:11:06 -0800, "Shaan Hurley"
wrote:

>Matt,
>
>Is this a machine with MSIE 5.5?



Yup. Shoulda known this was the, given the issues basic A2K2i had with IE5.5.

>If so that is the real reason that this
>occurs when using Register Today and is documented in the online Knowledge
>Base (http://support01.autodesk.com/KnowledgeBase.asp) document TS59347. It
>is not a network issue. The Service Pack 1 fixes many of the MSIE 5.5
>issues.

Okay, but since I have a VIP, and don't need to register my copy with Adesk
(it's done by our reseller), and I cancel the Register Today, it still happens.
I gotta figure out a way to take a screen shot of this - it's hilarious.

BTW - is there ANY WAY of slipstreaming SP1 into an ADT/A2K2i installation
image? This is driving me nuts.

We CAD managers/IS folk need to have applications that allow us to easily
install AND maintain the app image on a central server for remote installation.
Microsoft is helping us out with Windows 2000, Office 2000 (including Project
2000 and Frontpage 2000) where we can use the Custom Installation Wizard to
modify the .MSI files and slipstream service packs and hotfixes directly to an
image on a server.

Matt
stachoni@bellatlantic.net
mstachoni@beyerdesign.com
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 4 of 10 (133 Views)

Re:

12-08-2000 07:23 AM in reply to: *Stachoni, Matt
Matt,

AutoCAD 2000i is slipstreaming with SP1 now but I am not sure on ADT2i.

Sincerely,

Shaan Hurley
Autodesk Beta Programs
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com

Please keep the discussions in the discussion group.

"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
news:rqp23tob2k5esq3vcub9lpt9cu98bfgp0g@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 14:11:06 -0800, "Shaan Hurley"

> wrote:
>
> >Matt,
> >
> >Is this a machine with MSIE 5.5?
>
>
>
> Yup. Shoulda known this was the, given the issues basic A2K2i had with
IE5.5.
>
> >If so that is the real reason that this
> >occurs when using Register Today and is documented in the online
Knowledge
> >Base (http://support01.autodesk.com/KnowledgeBase.asp) document TS59347.
It
> >is not a network issue. The Service Pack 1 fixes many of the MSIE 5.5
> >issues.
>
> Okay, but since I have a VIP, and don't need to register my copy with
Adesk
> (it's done by our reseller), and I cancel the Register Today, it still
happens.
> I gotta figure out a way to take a screen shot of this - it's hilarious.
>
> BTW - is there ANY WAY of slipstreaming SP1 into an ADT/A2K2i installation
> image? This is driving me nuts.
>
> We CAD managers/IS folk need to have applications that allow us to easily
> install AND maintain the app image on a central server for remote
installation.
> Microsoft is helping us out with Windows 2000, Office 2000 (including
Project
> 2000 and Frontpage 2000) where we can use the Custom Installation Wizard
to
> modify the .MSI files and slipstream service packs and hotfixes directly
to an
> image on a server.
>
> Matt
> stachoni@bellatlantic.net
> mstachoni@beyerdesign.com
*Stachoni, Matt
Message 5 of 10 (133 Views)

Re:

12-10-2000 11:10 PM in reply to: *Stachoni, Matt
Shaan,

>AutoCAD 2000i is slipstreaming with SP1 now but I am not sure on ADT2i.

What I meant was, can I slipstream SPx into an existing disk image of A2K/ADT2,
such that future installs from that image will have SPx included.

In Windows 2000 service packs, you can run UPDATE.EXE with an -s switch that
will slipstream the service pack files into an installation image (essentially a
disk-based copy of the /i386 folder). This makes it possible to install Win2K
with SP1 applied automatically.

Office 2000 also has similar functionality for SR-1. We need this for A2K-based
products, also. It really needs to be standard operating procedure, given that
Service Packs are now a way of life.

I'm going to retry creating an installation image from an IE5.01 machine to see
if that netsetup bug is an IE 5.5 problem.

BTW - any news on when SP2 for ADT2i will be available? I would really like to
use the XML extensions ASAP.

Thanks,
Matt
mstachoni@beyerdesign.com

On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 15:23:21 -0800, "Shaan Hurley"
wrote:

>Matt,
>
>AutoCAD 2000i is slipstreaming with SP1 now but I am not sure on ADT2i.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Shaan Hurley
>Autodesk Beta Programs
>http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 6 of 10 (133 Views)

Re:

12-11-2000 12:02 AM in reply to: *Stachoni, Matt
Matt,

What I meant is what you had asked . There is slip streaming product
shipping that is _vernum U.1.20 which is a product with SP1 already
included. You will have to ask the ADT team on expected plans for SP2.

Sincerely,

Shaan Hurley
Autodesk Beta Programs
http://betaprograms.autodesk.com

"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
news:h6r93tc65g4iragcor4nojt6ahlkbjo0ou@4ax.com...
> Shaan,
>
> >AutoCAD 2000i is slipstreaming with SP1 now but I am not sure on ADT2i.
>
> What I meant was, can I slipstream SPx into an existing disk image of
A2K/ADT2,
> such that future installs from that image will have SPx included.
>
> In Windows 2000 service packs, you can run UPDATE.EXE with an -s switch
that
> will slipstream the service pack files into an installation image
(essentially a
> disk-based copy of the /i386 folder). This makes it possible to install
Win2K
> with SP1 applied automatically.
>
> Office 2000 also has similar functionality for SR-1. We need this for
A2K-based
> products, also. It really needs to be standard operating procedure, given
that
> Service Packs are now a way of life.
>
> I'm going to retry creating an installation image from an IE5.01 machine
to see
> if that netsetup bug is an IE 5.5 problem.
>
> BTW - any news on when SP2 for ADT2i will be available? I would really
like to
> use the XML extensions ASAP.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
> mstachoni@beyerdesign.com
>
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 15:23:21 -0800, "Shaan Hurley"

> wrote:
>
> >Matt,
> >
> >AutoCAD 2000i is slipstreaming with SP1 now but I am not sure on ADT2i.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >Shaan Hurley
> >Autodesk Beta Programs
> >http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
>
*Stachoni, Matt
Message 7 of 10 (133 Views)

Re:

12-11-2000 12:50 AM in reply to: *Stachoni, Matt
Shaan,

Umm..okay, let's see if we are talking about the same thing..:smileyhappy:

If I buy A2Ki or ADT2i today, I would (probably) get SP1 included into the
product core. That's normal, and what I would expect. I believe this is what you
are referring to.

But, if I have a network installation mage of A2K w/NO Service Pack, is there a
procedure or utility that will apply SP1 to that image, such that installs of
that image are up to SP1? That's what is normally referred to as slipstreaming.

If not, I believe this needs to be looked in to.

Thanks,
Matt
mstachoni@beyerdesign.com

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:02:07 -0800, "Shaan Hurley"
wrote:

>Matt,
>
>What I meant is what you had asked . There is slip streaming product
>shipping that is _vernum U.1.20 which is a product with SP1 already
>included. You will have to ask the ADT team on expected plans for SP2.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Shaan Hurley
>Autodesk Beta Programs
>http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 8 of 10 (133 Views)

Re:

12-11-2000 01:07 AM in reply to: *Stachoni, Matt
Matt,

Yes to the first and no but a wish list item on the second.

-Shaan

"Matt Stachoni" wrote in message
news:k21a3t85st92l9f74vqge29ma5vk4rgmh8@4ax.com...
> Shaan,
>
> Umm..okay, let's see if we are talking about the same thing..:smileyhappy:
>
> If I buy A2Ki or ADT2i today, I would (probably) get SP1 included into the
> product core. That's normal, and what I would expect. I believe this is
what you
> are referring to.
>
> But, if I have a network installation mage of A2K w/NO Service Pack, is
there a
> procedure or utility that will apply SP1 to that image, such that installs
of
> that image are up to SP1? That's what is normally referred to as
slipstreaming.
>
> If not, I believe this needs to be looked in to.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
> mstachoni@beyerdesign.com
>
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:02:07 -0800, "Shaan Hurley"

> wrote:
>
> >Matt,
> >
> >What I meant is what you had asked . There is slip streaming product
> >shipping that is _vernum U.1.20 which is a product with SP1 already
> >included. You will have to ask the ADT team on expected plans for SP2.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >Shaan Hurley
> >Autodesk Beta Programs
> >http://betaprograms.autodesk.com
>
*James Wedding, E.I.T.
Message 9 of 10 (133 Views)

Re:

12-11-2000 01:39 AM in reply to: *Stachoni, Matt
OOOHH Please can I have one of those too? Tell the guys that I would KILL
for a SP that could be run on the install image. How sweet would that be?
Oh man....

--
James Wedding, E.I.T.
IT Manager
Jones & Boyd, Inc.
Dallas, Texas
jwedding@NOSPAMjones-boyd.com
Remove NOSPAM from e-mail for reply.
*Hurley, Shaan
Message 10 of 10 (133 Views)

Re:

12-11-2000 01:51 AM in reply to: *Stachoni, Matt
James,

I would not hold my breath on this one issue as it would require substantial
work.

Cheers,
-Shaan

"James Wedding, E.I.T." wrote in message
news:C47BE81546003D75DD8FC8FCA27ACA48@in.WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> OOOHH Please can I have one of those too? Tell the guys that I would KILL
> for a SP that could be run on the install image. How sweet would that be?
> Oh man....
>
> --
> James Wedding, E.I.T.
> IT Manager
> Jones & Boyd, Inc.
> Dallas, Texas
> jwedding@NOSPAMjones-boyd.com
> Remove NOSPAM from e-mail for reply.
>

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