Installation & Licensing

[#1]

To summarise, I would like end-users to use Novell’s Application
Launcher to install ACAD14.

I'm running 40 AutoCAD14 user licences using an AdLM server on a NT 4
server
(SP5) and NetWare 4.11 servers for the Network Deployment Setup.
We are currently using ZEN 1.1's Novell Application Launcher (NAL) to
deliver all
of our apps across a WAN. I would like to take a snap shot of an
installation
(network and client) and then make a NAL object from that so that anyone
can
install AutoCAD across the WAN. We have discovered the hard way that if
you
make an image of a workstation which has ACAD14 installed on it, copy
that on to
other workstations, then use them at the same time, the AdLM doesn't
just take a
licence per workstation. Instead it completely stops working and you
need a new
AdLM Code from Autodesk.

I've now taken a look at a snap shot of a client deployment and it seems
that a code
is placed in the registry that is unique (I'm assuming) to each
installation.
Would I be correct in also assuming that if I got NAL to copy this setup
to other
workstations, the code would be the same so the AdLM would not allow
that?

I need students, without local admin rights, to run ACAD14 from anywhere
on our
WAN. Like the rest of our software, if it's not installed, NAL will
install it (NAL
gives them temporary Admin rights locally), then runs it.

It would be impossible to install ACAD14 on every single workstation on
our
WAN and yet our students need to roam.

Thanks a lot in advance, just ask for more info.

Regards

Ian McDonnell

School of Civil Engineering
Faculty of Technology
Kingston University
England

[#2]

Ian,

What you are trying to do is outside of AutoCAD's designed functionality.
We only support network installs of AutoCAD performed using our included
deployment tools. As I have never worked with NAL, I have no way of telling
what sort problems you could be running into. I can tell you that AutoCAD
2000 has improvements that make it work better in roaming profile
environments because the ID number for the registry entries has been
eliminated. I do not know if these improvements are all that are needed to
solve your problems.
I recommend that you check with Novell or your Novell support resource for
more information on the use of their tool. Perhaps they have data on using
their tools to deploy AutoCAD.

Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Product Support

Ian McDonnell wrote:

> To summarise, I would like end-users to use Novell’s Application
> Launcher to install ACAD14.
>
> I'm running 40 AutoCAD14 user licences using an AdLM server on a NT 4
> server
> (SP5) and NetWare 4.11 servers for the Network Deployment Setup.
> We are currently using ZEN 1.1's Novell Application Launcher (NAL) to
> deliver all
> of our apps across a WAN. I would like to take a snap shot of an
> installation
> (network and client) and then make a NAL object from that so that anyone
> can
> install AutoCAD across the WAN. We have discovered the hard way that if
> you
> make an image of a workstation which has ACAD14 installed on it, copy
> that on to
> other workstations, then use them at the same time, the AdLM doesn't
> just take a
> licence per workstation. Instead it completely stops working and you
> need a new
> AdLM Code from Autodesk.
>
> I've now taken a look at a snap shot of a client deployment and it seems
> that a code
> is placed in the registry that is unique (I'm assuming) to each
> installation.
> Would I be correct in also assuming that if I got NAL to copy this setup
> to other
> workstations, the code would be the same so the AdLM would not allow
> that?
>
> I need students, without local admin rights, to run ACAD14 from anywhere
> on our
> WAN. Like the rest of our software, if it's not installed, NAL will
> install it (NAL
> gives them temporary Admin rights locally), then runs it.
>
> It would be impossible to install ACAD14 on every single workstation on
> our
> WAN and yet our students need to roam.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance, just ask for more info.
>
> Regards
>
> Ian McDonnell
>
> School of Civil Engineering
> Faculty of Technology
> Kingston University
> England

[#3]

Hi Ian,

I have 157 workstations on a WAN to which I successfully installed
AcadR14.01 and LDD R1.03 using Zen 1.1 NAL. Please answer a couple of
questions and I may be able to help you out.

I take it your workstations are running NT 4.0?
Is your AdLM using TCP/IP or IPX?
Are you using any of the special Windows NT Macros? The NDS attribute
macros? or application object macros? If you are not familiar with these
they can be downloaded from the Novell website...

Gigi Canter
Seattle Public Utilities/ Seaattle Transportation Dept.
CADD Administrator
AUGI #w2774

Ian McDonnell wrote in article
<37E66BAA.8BEE6D36@kingston.ac.uk>...
> To summarise, I would like end-users to use Novell’s Application
> Launcher to install ACAD14.
>
> I'm running 40 AutoCAD14 user licences using an AdLM server on a NT 4
> server
> (SP5) and NetWare 4.11 servers for the Network Deployment Setup.
> We are currently using ZEN 1.1's Novell Application Launcher (NAL) to
> deliver all
> of our apps across a WAN. I would like to take a snap shot of an
> installation
> (network and client) and then make a NAL object from that so that anyone
> can
> install AutoCAD across the WAN. We have discovered the hard way that if
> you
> make an image of a workstation which has ACAD14 installed on it, copy
> that on to
> other workstations, then use them at the same time, the AdLM doesn't
> just take a
> licence per workstation. Instead it completely stops working and you
> need a new
> AdLM Code from Autodesk.
>
> I've now taken a look at a snap shot of a client deployment and it seems
> that a code
> is placed in the registry that is unique (I'm assuming) to each
> installation.
> Would I be correct in also assuming that if I got NAL to copy this setup
> to other
> workstations, the code would be the same so the AdLM would not allow
> that?
>
> I need students, without local admin rights, to run ACAD14 from anywhere
> on our
> WAN. Like the rest of our software, if it's not installed, NAL will
> install it (NAL
> gives them temporary Admin rights locally), then runs it.
>
> It would be impossible to install ACAD14 on every single workstation on
> our
> WAN and yet our students need to roam.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance, just ask for more info.
>
> Regards
>
> Ian McDonnell
>
> School of Civil Engineering
> Faculty of Technology
> Kingston University
> England
>
>
>
>

[#4]

Hi,

I've done this at a customersite and we found the following:

1. Do not mix the Licenseserver (ADLM) with this, it won't work and doesn't
have to either as the license server is almost completely separate from the
actual deploymentinstallation of the application itself.
2. Be careful and check that your ZEN-setup in the "source" workstation is
working ie you can run AutoCAD. We found that the AutoCAD Register in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE --> SOFTWARE wasn't being included in the ZEN-package.
3. ZEN has a problem handling any ini-files that are not original Windows
INI-files.

What we finally did is install the Network installation client deployment
and the License on the server where the ADLM was going to recide. Did a ZEN
installation from the Server-client-deployment-image to the new, pure NT 4.0
workstation (we were running SP 6), saved the ZEN-package and finally edited
it adding the registryentries missing and adding a logonscript that took
care of some AutoCAD ini-files belonging to a 3rd party application. They
have now installed successfully apr. 20 workstations and the original
installationtree from the server has been deleted and is no longer needed.
The Licenseserver is up and running as we never mixed with it when doing the
clientinstallationpreparation.

Of course the Client installation of AutoCAD R14 and especially R2000 in it
self is easy and foolproof. The thing you don't get is printers/plotters and
menusettings when using the Autdesk installation.

Hope this helps,

Petri Ahava

CAD-Center Oy
Finland

Ian McDonnell wrote:

> To summarise, I would like end-users to use Novell’s Application
> Launcher to install ACAD14.
>
> I'm running 40 AutoCAD14 user licences using an AdLM server on a NT 4
> server
> (SP5) and NetWare 4.11 servers for the Network Deployment Setup.
> We are currently using ZEN 1.1's Novell Application Launcher (NAL) to
> deliver all
> of our apps across a WAN. I would like to take a snap shot of an
> installation
> (network and client) and then make a NAL object from that so that anyone
> can
> install AutoCAD across the WAN. We have discovered the hard way that if
> you
> make an image of a workstation which has ACAD14 installed on it, copy
> that on to
> other workstations, then use them at the same time, the AdLM doesn't
> just take a
> licence per workstation. Instead it completely stops working and you
> need a new
> AdLM Code from Autodesk.
>
> I've now taken a look at a snap shot of a client deployment and it seems
> that a code
> is placed in the registry that is unique (I'm assuming) to each
> installation.
> Would I be correct in also assuming that if I got NAL to copy this setup
> to other
> workstations, the code would be the same so the AdLM would not allow
> that?
>
> I need students, without local admin rights, to run ACAD14 from anywhere
> on our
> WAN. Like the rest of our software, if it's not installed, NAL will
> install it (NAL
> gives them temporary Admin rights locally), then runs it.
>
> It would be impossible to install ACAD14 on every single workstation on
> our
> WAN and yet our students need to roam.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance, just ask for more info.
>
> Regards
>
> Ian McDonnell
>
> School of Civil Engineering
> Faculty of Technology
> Kingston University
> England