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austins
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Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

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03-26-2012 10:11 AM

My work has tasked me with coming up with a rack mount (or even non-rackmount) server for running AutoCAD.  Everything i have read says Windows 7.  Is this even a possible config?  Windows 7 + Rack Mount + Remote Desktop?  I would like to know if anyone else has used these products in this manner.  We only have a few (less than 5) people who would be using the computer for my company.  I need first to know if this is something possible, and second if so, what type of hardware would i need to order? (i.e. system requirements etc) Thanks in advance!

 

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Re: Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

03-26-2012 12:12 PM in reply to: austins

Are you wanting all 5 users to have the ability to use this machine (via remote) at the same time?

Do seperate user profiles need to be maintained for each user?

 

If the answer to the above is yes you will probably need to look into a Citrix type environment (or some form of virtualization).

 

If no then regular Win7 Remote desktop could be used but would not be as responsive as a local install.

 

What is the need for this machine? Cut down number of licenses, support, etc.

 

Any time you talk about sharing software you should really also check into the license language. Some licenses are for users some for machines (which could make a big difference in your situation)

 

 

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Re: Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

03-27-2012 08:52 AM in reply to: austins

Mike is right.  In fact, you must use Citrix rather than Remote Desktop or any other remote access solution.  Otherwise you are violating your license agreement.  Your solution must involve Citrix and the network license manager with a license created for that specific environment. 

 

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Re: Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

03-27-2012 01:44 PM in reply to: michael.robertson

michael.robertson wrote:

Are you wanting all 5 users to have the ability to use this machine (via remote) at the same time?

Do seperate user profiles need to be maintained for each user?

 

If the answer to the above is yes you will probably need to look into a Citrix type environment (or some form of virtualization).

 

If no then regular Win7 Remote desktop could be used but would not be as responsive as a local install.

 

What is the need for this machine? Cut down number of licenses, support, etc.

 

Any time you talk about sharing software you should really also check into the license language. Some licenses are for users some for machines (which could make a big difference in your situation)

 

 


I do not need to have 5 simulataneous users.  At most maybe 2, most likely just 1.  I work for a small rural cell phone company.  Only 2 of us even have the knowledge to use AutoCAD and most likely there will be one person drafting or modeling at one time; a rare occasion both of us would need to use it.  We are however buying 5 seats for expansion in the future if we would need it, assuming we added other qualified persons to our department.  The question was more theoretical than actual.  We are purchasing AutoCAD and a propagation software called Forsk.  At the present time, i do not know how much system resources are used by Forsk and it depends on what kind of graphics and processing we are doing much like anything else.  So, i just was putting the question like a hypothetical sort of thing :smileyhappy: IF we were to need to have 2 simultaneous sessions of the most intensive CAD program out there going at the same time, how much power would we need? (reality: 1 Forsk, 1 AutoCAD) i was just using the AutoCAD x2 simultaneous scenario as a base for system resource use and processing power etc. Thanks for all the input guys!  We very well may need a Citrix environment in the future as our company continues to grow! Thanks again for the feedback.

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Re: Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

03-28-2012 04:15 AM in reply to: austins

If you are a small company you may be better off (and cheaper) to just implement network licensing for your Autodesk product (don't know if Forsk supports network licensing).

 

Not sure if you know so I'll explain how network licenses work. Say you buy 2 licenses for your company, you can install AutoCAD on as many machines as you want, but only 2 people can use it at the same time.

 

Even if you don't have very powerful PC's, it would probably be cheaper (and easier to support for a small company) to buy upgraded pc's and network licensing than to buy a powerful enough server and a Citrix solution.

 

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Re: Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

03-28-2012 09:14 AM in reply to: michael.robertson

michael.robertson wrote:

If you are a small company you may be better off (and cheaper) to just implement network licensing for your Autodesk product (don't know if Forsk supports network licensing).

 

Not sure if you know so I'll explain how network licenses work. Say you buy 2 licenses for your company, you can install AutoCAD on as many machines as you want, but only 2 people can use it at the same time.

 

Even if you don't have very powerful PC's, it would probably be cheaper (and easier to support for a small company) to buy upgraded pc's and network licensing than to buy a powerful enough server and a Citrix solution.

 


Oh ok nice.  I didn't know that was an option.  How does the software authenticate the licensing? Do all computers need to be on the same domain? 

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Re: Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

03-28-2012 09:23 AM in reply to: austins

no

if the computer can ping the server with the license manger installed on it by hostname it should be able to grab a license

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Re: Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

03-28-2012 09:28 AM in reply to: DarrenP

DarrenP wrote:

no

if the computer can ping the server with the license manger installed on it by hostname it should be able to grab a license


I see! thanks for that bit.  Is the "license manager" software that can be installed on any computer on the network?

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DarrenP
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Re: Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

03-28-2012 09:29 AM in reply to: austins

yes

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Re: Remote Desktop Server, Windows 7, and AutoCAD

03-28-2012 09:30 AM in reply to: DarrenP

but there is an network activation fee you have to pay to make autocad a network license product

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