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05-23-2001 01:10 AM in reply to: *Broeckmann, Frank
Frank,

As I stated earlier in this thread AutoCAD 2002 will incorporate a license
switcher to change between FLEXlm network licensing and the Standalone
License Manager. This requires the runtime system to be installed during the
Client deployment.
--
Simon Gillis
Analyst
DPG Product Support EMEA
Autodesk WW Support & Services

"Frank Broeckmann" wrote in message
news:B7C4C4E148BFFB45E98C9B19754C4C70@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi Dick!
>
> Thanks for your interest in this problem, i have already tested registry
and
> file swapping and it didn't work (I use the german versions).
> I think, the c-dilla license manager is a problem.
>
> It is not so important for me that it's worth to test it some further
days,
> but it would be a nice feature (hope the license problem will be much
easier
> in Acad 2002).
>
> I have a network and a local license, but if it's violating the license
> agreement I will not install both versions on a single computer (would
this
> be a problem, Bud?).
>
> Frank
>
> "Dick" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:57E9B4A37611A08228797A65EAC82578@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Alright Bud, suppose this guy is in France. According to Frank Hervet
> ("Re:
> > I need to 'convert' 150 local licenses of AutoCAD to the network license
> > system." 4/25/01 in this news group) all that would be needed is to
swap
> a
> > dll. In that scenario you could easily create two icons on the desktop
> that
> > could point to a bat file that swapped the dll, or pointed to different
> > profiles that did the same thing. I do not use the French version but
if
> > this is true my bet is that it is not "supported" by AutoDesk which is
> > distinctly different than not possible.
> >
> > If I were determined to do this my approach might be to configure two
> > workstations identically using an image program such as Ghost. Then
> install
> > the stand alone version on one and a network on the other. There are
> > several ways to check the difference between the two.
> > 1. Copy the program registry from one to the next and see what happens.
> If
> > swapping the registry "converts" between network and standalone then you
> are
> > set, just find the keys that are different. A simple bat file or VBA
> > program could easily change the key quickly.
> > 2. If swapping the registry didn't work then it is probably a file
thing.
> > Compare the essential directories (support, root, etc...) for
differences
> in
> > files, like maybe size or modified date. If you find differences try
> > swapping those files and see what happens. In the French version I bet
> that
> > the ADESKSYS.DLL file is just slightly different between the two
versions.
> >
> > That could be my approach but I have only thought about it for a few
> > minutes, there is probably a lot better way to go about it.
> >
> > My bet is that if you had a good head on your shoulders, enough drive,
and
> a
> > day or two to goof off with the problem then you could come up with a
> hack.
> > Now weather this violates some license agreement or something is beyond
me
> > but it absolutely positively must be possible even if AutoDesk does not
> > support it. All you have to do is find the 1's and 0's that are
different
> > and swap em'.
> >
> > Telling someone that something is not "possible" achieves nothing. I
> agree
> > that someone could really mess things up badly if they weren't careful
so
> > they should be warned but not necessarily discouraged.
> >
> > Bud Schroeder [ Autodesk Inc.] wrote in
> message
> > news:2A3B651EC4AABAE8AD2AE74B7B839E99@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Hello Dick,
> > >
> > > Not sure what your not getting here, so this will be my last message
to
> > you.
> > > No it is not possible!!!
> > >
> > > Take care.
> > >
> > > Bud
> > >
> > > "Dick" wrote in message
> > > news:53D533F67C1402A67343CEA023C5A477@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Again, I stress that "not supported" and "not possible" are two
> > distinctly
> > > > different conditions. Just because it is difficult doesn't
> necessarily
> > > mean
> > > > it's not worth doing.
> > > > Bud Schroeder wrote in message
> > > > news:8C30CF8E20ABB7F9FFC24F9EFE35ABAE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > Hello Dick,
> > > > >
> > > > > Side by side is not supported! It's not just a matter of tweeking
> the
> > > > > registry to get it to work. There are lots of things to consider
> like
> > > > third
> > > > > party compatibility, other Autodesk applications that use the
Common
> > > > Shared
> > > > > Directory, and a few other things. Please don't encourage any one
> to
> > > try
> > > > > and do this, or you could end up with one heck of a mess on your
> > hands.
> > > > >
> > > > > Take care
> > > > >
> > > > > Bud Schroeder
> > > > > Test Development
> > > > > Autodesk Inc.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dick" wrote in message
> > > > > news:6158B3C499E6B979722FB9B557EE39FB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > Excuse me if this sounds crass, but if you know for a fact that
it
> > > > cannot
> > > > > be
> > > > > > done and why it cannot be done then you should give some sort of
> > > > > explanition
> > > > > > as to why. Otherwise simply stating that it is impossible does
> > > nothing
> > > > > but
> > > > > > discourage someone frome trying. Perhaps achiving side by side
> > > > > > installations would be hard enough to keep most folks from
> > attempting
> > > it
> > > > > but
> > > > > > my bet is that some extensive registry manipulation is all that
> > really
> > > > > needs
> > > > > > to be done.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bud Schroeder wrote in message
> > > > > > news:638D887AC81A3296D5AF41402DF043A5@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > > Hi Frank,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is not possible except if your running say AutoCAD 2000i
> and
> > > > > AutoCAD
> > > > > > > MAP 2000i. or other vertical products. Then you can do this.
> > As
> > > > far
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > having say standalone AutoCAD 2000i and Client or Network
2000i,
> > > this
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > not be done.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Take care.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bud Schroeder
> > > > > > > Test Development
> > > > > > > Autodesk Inc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Frank Broeckmann" wrote in
> message
> > > > > > > news:90EBB726C572999CD0C9D441694ED142@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > > > Thanks for your answer.
> > > > > > > > But .. isn't there a trick maybe by manipulation the
registry
> > or
> > > > > > writing
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > batch file for exchanging some files of Acad?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Simon Gillis (Autodesk Support)"
> > > schrieb
> > > > im
> > > > > > > > Newsbeitrag
> > > > > news:842FC625AB183D7759CFE612394373BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > > > > This is not possible in AutoCAD 2000i. You need to deploy
> one
> > or
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > other.
> > > > > > > > > In AutoCAD 2002 you will have the ability to switch
between
> > the
> > > > two
> > > > > > > > > providing you have purchased both a network and a
standalone
> > > > > license.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Simon Gillis
> > > > > > > > > Analyst
> > > > > > > > > DPG Product Support EMEA
> > > > > > > > > Autodesk WW Support & Services
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Frank Broeckmann" wrote in
> > > message
> > > > > > > > >
news:A88D62D017AAAFB58214B6578CDBCC15@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > > > > > I want to install a network licensed AND a local
licensed
> > > > version
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Acad
> > > > > > > > > > Map 2Ki on ONE workstation (NT4 SP5). Is this possible?
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