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*srs123
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Network Admin help NEEDED

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03-12-2000 07:31 PM
<<< Message <8ahd8l$hva3@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally posted to 'autodesk.autocad.r14general' on Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:38:13 -0700.>>>

Forgive me for posting here, but I always get great info here and my network
problem is within a Cad-Group. Due to needed security, we have upgraded all
the company cad chairs to NT Workstation (5 Chairs NTFS) including one
computer that stores all the company files (peer to peer) everyone has and
works on their cad file on that computer.

The problem is whenever I log on as a user(ordinary) and open a AutoCAD file
off another computer,(logging on as an to that computer as an ordinary user)
, when I go to save I get the message " Unable to save to drawing J:\Bla
bla.dwg as it is being accessed by another session. Drawing saved to J:\Bla
bla.ac$" Yet if I log on as an Administrator I CAN save. How do I get
around this????????????????????

I admit, I am the default Administrator so please bare with me..Let Me start
by saying what we are trying to achieve: We are trying to prevent users for
making changes to their operating system OR be able to delete files off of
the company computer.

What I did on the "company" computer that I am getting this message on, was
create Ordinary users (Cannot change passwords,password never expires) then
in permissions I added (users) giving "special access" by putting a check in
everything but delete......choosing replace permissions in subdirectory as
well.

What did I do wrong ? Any help would really be appreciated
Thanks in advance

Scott Smith
*Martin, Jason
Message 2 of 4 (92 Views)

Re: Network Admin help NEEDED

03-12-2000 10:21 PM in reply to: *srs123
I'm not sure of the "exact" methods used when a drawing is saved but it's
something like
Check to see if a bak file exists, if so delete it
Make a copy of the existing dwg file with a bak extension.
Save the new version of the dwg file over the old one (I'm not sure if a
delete a save a new file happens or if the file is simply overwritten)
As you can see the first step involves a delete. If the users don't have
the rights to delete from this folder then autocad will not be able to save
the drawings.
If you want to limit users rights to configuation of their OS you should be
able to protect only the c:\winnt folder. I don't think that it is possible
to prevent users from deleting any file on the computer and autocad to be
able to save the drawings.

hth

jason martin
frankfurt-short-bruza

srs123@swbell.net wrote in message <8ahndt$hvb8@adesknews2.autodesk.com>...
><<< Message <8ahd8l$hva3@adesknews2.autodesk.com> was originally posted to
'autodesk.autocad.r14general' on Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:38:13 -0700.>>>
>
>Forgive me for posting here, but I always get great info here and my
network
>problem is within a Cad-Group. Due to needed security, we have upgraded all
>the company cad chairs to NT Workstation (5 Chairs NTFS) including one
>computer that stores all the company files (peer to peer) everyone has and
>works on their cad file on that computer.
>
>The problem is whenever I log on as a user(ordinary) and open a AutoCAD
file
>off another computer,(logging on as an to that computer as an ordinary
user)
>, when I go to save I get the message " Unable to save to drawing J:\Bla
>bla.dwg as it is being accessed by another session. Drawing saved to J:\Bla
>bla.ac$" Yet if I log on as an Administrator I CAN save. How do I get
>around this????????????????????
>
>I admit, I am the default Administrator so please bare with me..Let Me
start
>by saying what we are trying to achieve: We are trying to prevent users for
>making changes to their operating system OR be able to delete files off of
>the company computer.
>
>What I did on the "company" computer that I am getting this message on,
was
>create Ordinary users (Cannot change passwords,password never expires) then
>in permissions I added (users) giving "special access" by putting a check
in
>everything but delete......choosing replace permissions in subdirectory as
>well.
>
>What did I do wrong ? Any help would really be appreciated
>Thanks in advance
>
>Scott Smith
*Nehls, Kevin
Message 3 of 4 (92 Views)

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03-13-2000 09:52 AM in reply to: *srs123
I don't think that it is possible
> to prevent users from deleting any file on the computer and autocad to be
> able to save the drawings.
>

Jason, is correct here. If you want the users to be able to modify files
they must also be able to delete the file(s). What we have done in our
organization is create a set of "released" directories one our server and
restrict everyone's access to READ for those directories. Then we assigned
three people in our department the permission of CHANGE to those directories
and files. Now whenever a drawing is to be changed or released it has to go
through the proccess of having it signed off be the Chief Engineer and then
one of the three people have to release the drawing into the appropriate
"released" directory.

I hope that this helps.

Kevin Nehls
*srs123
Message 4 of 4 (92 Views)

Re:

03-14-2000 04:52 AM in reply to: *srs123
Thanks for the help. I think we will go with granting the CHANGE permission
to a select few. Thanks again.

"Kevin Nehls" wrote in message
news:8aja1a$nnj7@adesknews2.autodesk.com...
> I don't think that it is possible
> > to prevent users from deleting any file on the computer and autocad to
be
> > able to save the drawings.
> >
>
> Jason, is correct here. If you want the users to be able to modify files
> they must also be able to delete the file(s). What we have done in our
> organization is create a set of "released" directories one our server and
> restrict everyone's access to READ for those directories. Then we
assigned
> three people in our department the permission of CHANGE to those
directories
> and files. Now whenever a drawing is to be changed or released it has to
go
> through the proccess of having it signed off be the Chief Engineer and
then
> one of the three people have to release the drawing into the appropriate
> "released" directory.
>
> I hope that this helps.
>
> Kevin Nehls
>
>

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