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*Crick, TJay
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Multiple licensing schemes/ZEN scripted install

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08-09-2000 09:45 AM
Hi folks,

I am new to your group and have read some interesting information but I
do have a slightly different question than what has already been
answered.

We are currently going through a major desktop upgrade across the
corporation, upgrading from Windows 95 to Windows 2000 and included is
an upgrade from AutoCAD r14 to AutoCAD 2000. We are also deploying all
applications to the desktops using Novell's ZENWorks.

For our current licensing of R14, each site has basically done their own
thing. Some sites have network license servers and some have standalone
installs. Once we go to AutoCAD 2000 with the new desktop, we plan on
having everyone run the software from their hard drive whether they are
using a standalone license or a network license. Will we be able to
script one install (ie one software serial number) and just make a small
change to point to either the sites license server or to a standalone
license?

If I am able to convince the sites to all go to network licenses
(software installed on c:smileyhappy: will we be able to script the install of one
software and point to different license servers using acadserver? Or
maybe to ask it a different way, does the authorization code that is
installed on the license server respond only to requests from software
of a specific serial number? I hope I have asked that clearly enough or
am I way out to lunch.

(For those of you unfamiliar with ZENWorks, it basically deploys
software by creating a deployment from the differences of a 'snapshot'
before and after a software install.)

Thanks very much for your help
*martin, jason
Message 2 of 5 (107 Views)

Re: Multiple licensing schemes/ZEN scripted install

08-09-2000 11:29 AM in reply to: *Crick, TJay
I don't work for Autodesk and my opinion is only my opinion so if Autodesk
finds differenly don't blame me.

I would try to get all sites to use network licensing. Not only does it
simplify the installation but it also simplifies your tracking of licensing.
Use the network installation wizard to set up a deployment and it should be
able to be scripted. The installs don't care where they are getting a
license from as long as a license server will answer.

I do not recommend fill out any serial number/auth code information in the
script for stand alone installs. I don't see any possible way to get away
with that and be in compliance with Autodesk's licensing unless you could
absolutely, positively prove that autocad could only be run on one of the
machines at any one time.

Go with an ADLM server at each site and local deployments from the wizard.
Easy to install and easy to manage. That's what zen's all about anyway.

hth

jason martin
frankfurt-short-bruza

TJay Crick wrote in message
news:39918AB6.628C6165@hotmail.com...
> Hi folks,
>
> I am new to your group and have read some interesting information but I
> do have a slightly different question than what has already been
> answered.
>
> We are currently going through a major desktop upgrade across the
> corporation, upgrading from Windows 95 to Windows 2000 and included is
> an upgrade from AutoCAD r14 to AutoCAD 2000. We are also deploying all
> applications to the desktops using Novell's ZENWorks.
>
> For our current licensing of R14, each site has basically done their own
> thing. Some sites have network license servers and some have standalone
> installs. Once we go to AutoCAD 2000 with the new desktop, we plan on
> having everyone run the software from their hard drive whether they are
> using a standalone license or a network license. Will we be able to
> script one install (ie one software serial number) and just make a small
> change to point to either the sites license server or to a standalone
> license?
>
> If I am able to convince the sites to all go to network licenses
> (software installed on c:smileyhappy: will we be able to script the install of one
> software and point to different license servers using acadserver? Or
> maybe to ask it a different way, does the authorization code that is
> installed on the license server respond only to requests from software
> of a specific serial number? I hope I have asked that clearly enough or
> am I way out to lunch.
>
> (For those of you unfamiliar with ZENWorks, it basically deploys
> software by creating a deployment from the differences of a 'snapshot'
> before and after a software install.)
>
> Thanks very much for your help
>
*milana, jerry
Message 3 of 5 (107 Views)

Re:

08-09-2000 12:34 PM in reply to: *Crick, TJay
Jason is correct.

You can not have a common install for standalone seats and network. I also
agree with Jason that AdLM is the way to go if you can. If you have mobile
users, you may want to consider standalone licenses for them.

Jerry Milana,
Autodesk Product Support
"jason martin" wrote in message
news:ef33885.0@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> I don't work for Autodesk and my opinion is only my opinion so if Autodesk
> finds differenly don't blame me.
>
> I would try to get all sites to use network licensing. Not only does it
> simplify the installation but it also simplifies your tracking of
licensing.
> Use the network installation wizard to set up a deployment and it should
be
> able to be scripted. The installs don't care where they are getting a
> license from as long as a license server will answer.
>
> I do not recommend fill out any serial number/auth code information in the
> script for stand alone installs. I don't see any possible way to get away
> with that and be in compliance with Autodesk's licensing unless you could
> absolutely, positively prove that autocad could only be run on one of the
> machines at any one time.
>
> Go with an ADLM server at each site and local deployments from the wizard.
> Easy to install and easy to manage. That's what zen's all about anyway.
>
> hth
>
> jason martin
> frankfurt-short-bruza
>
> TJay Crick wrote in message
> news:39918AB6.628C6165@hotmail.com...
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I am new to your group and have read some interesting information but I
> > do have a slightly different question than what has already been
> > answered.
> >
> > We are currently going through a major desktop upgrade across the
> > corporation, upgrading from Windows 95 to Windows 2000 and included is
> > an upgrade from AutoCAD r14 to AutoCAD 2000. We are also deploying all
> > applications to the desktops using Novell's ZENWorks.
> >
> > For our current licensing of R14, each site has basically done their own
> > thing. Some sites have network license servers and some have standalone
> > installs. Once we go to AutoCAD 2000 with the new desktop, we plan on
> > having everyone run the software from their hard drive whether they are
> > using a standalone license or a network license. Will we be able to
> > script one install (ie one software serial number) and just make a small
> > change to point to either the sites license server or to a standalone
> > license?
> >
> > If I am able to convince the sites to all go to network licenses
> > (software installed on c:smileyhappy: will we be able to script the install of one
> > software and point to different license servers using acadserver? Or
> > maybe to ask it a different way, does the authorization code that is
> > installed on the license server respond only to requests from software
> > of a specific serial number? I hope I have asked that clearly enough or
> > am I way out to lunch.
> >
> > (For those of you unfamiliar with ZENWorks, it basically deploys
> > software by creating a deployment from the differences of a 'snapshot'
> > before and after a software install.)
> >
> > Thanks very much for your help
> >
>
rws
Member
rws
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Registered: ‎10-14-2003
Message 4 of 5 (107 Views)

Re: Multiple licensing schemes/ZEN scripted install

08-10-2000 12:30 PM in reply to: *Crick, TJay
We have just completed installing a system very similar to yours. We have 14 different regional offices running AutoCAD 2000 on Windows NT 4.0 with a Netware 5 network. Each office has AutoCAD installed on their local Novell server and an NT box running their license manager. I can push AutoCAD to any user on the WAN by simply assigning it to them using ZEN. The same ZEN package is used for every office. I had to use some variables to point users to the right servers, etc. A very important factor is that I personally installed AutoCAD 2000 at each of these sights, so everything is setup the same from office to office.

I did not specify a license server for users to look at. They automatically use the license server at their office. You can make them see other license servers by setting the ACADSERVER variable. The authorization code does not seem to care about a specific serial number.
*Crick, TJay
Message 5 of 5 (107 Views)

Re:

08-13-2000 02:03 PM in reply to: *Crick, TJay
Thanks very much for all the info provided here.

rws wrote:

> We have just completed installing a system very similar to yours. We
> have 14 different regional offices running AutoCAD 2000 on Windows NT
> 4.0 with a Netware 5 network. Each office has AutoCAD installed on
> their local Novell server and an NT box running their license manager.
> I can push AutoCAD to any user on the WAN by simply assigning it to
> them using ZEN. The same ZEN package is used for every office. I had
> to use some variables to point users to the right servers, etc. A very
> important factor is that I personally installed AutoCAD 2000 at each
> of these sights, so everything is setup the same from office to
> office.
>
> I did not specify a license server for users to look at. They
> automatically use the license server at their office. You can make
> them see other license servers by setting the ACADSERVER variable. The
> authorization code does not seem to care about a specific serial
> number.

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