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donovan.cox
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Hosted License server?

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09-13-2013 03:02 PM

I know it's technicly feasible to pull off, but does Autodesk allow this. 

 

Client wants to host LMtools for Product Design Suite Standard on a VMWare session running on a cloud service. 

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avto
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Re: Hosted License server?

09-16-2013 05:53 AM in reply to: donovan.cox

Unfortunately, Autodesk License server manager hosted on a VMWare session running on a cloud service has not been tested by Installation & Licensing team at Autodesk, thus it is not supported by Autodesk. 

 

2014: Network License Manager System Requirements
http://usa.autodesk.com/getdoc/id=GS21880916

 

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donovan.cox
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Re: Hosted License server?

09-16-2013 06:19 AM in reply to: avto

I realize it's not supported, but what I wanted to verify was that it is allowed, or not against a EULA somewhere. 

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avto
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Re: Hosted License server?

09-16-2013 08:08 AM in reply to: donovan.cox

Below is the link for Software License Agreements, you can review it to be sure that your licensing set up is compliant.

 

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=10235425

 



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DarrenP
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Re: Hosted License server?

09-16-2013 08:45 AM in reply to: avto

i don't believe this is legal

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Re: Hosted License server?

09-16-2013 09:22 AM in reply to: DarrenP

Darrent is right.  Not only does it break the LSA, but you never want to have your NLM accessible from the cloud, or any Internet resource, for that matter.  It would be too easy for anyone to take your licenses. 

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Re: Hosted License server?

09-16-2013 11:52 AM in reply to: TravisNave

Aren't licenses usually region-based as well?  If so, somebody on the cloud from outside the region for the issued license couldn't pull a license.

 

If this is for serving multiple geographically distant offices, there may be better (and less legally cloudy :smileyvery-happy: ) options.

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Re: Hosted License server?

09-16-2013 12:31 PM in reply to: dgorsman

dgorsman wrote:

Aren't licenses usually region-based as well?  If so, somebody on the cloud from outside the region for the issued license couldn't pull a license.

yes they are region based

 

dgorsman wrote:
If this is for serving multiple geographically distant offices, there may be better (and less legally cloudy :smileyvery-happy: ) options.

autodesk does offer A global network usage license for this

 

 

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Re: Hosted License server?

09-16-2013 05:39 PM in reply to: TravisNave

TravisNave wrote:

Darrent is right.  Not only does it break the LSA, but you never want to have your NLM accessible from the cloud, or any Internet resource, for that matter.  It would be too easy for anyone to take your licenses. 


Depends on the type of cloud - we have a WAN across different areas of the country, but all in one region. This is basically a private cloud hosted by an ISP and accesible from any of our connected offices or a VPN connection using domain authentication. We have have the option of hosted servers on that WAN. From our point of view these two scenarios are identical:

- licenses on a server in one of our offices, accessible anywhere on the WAN

- licenses on a hosted server in our WAN, accessbile anywhere on the WAN

 

A physical server in one office still needs to host licenses for use in other offices, so the network security, speed and reliability needs are the same regardless of where the licenses are held.

 

We are not considering this option at the moment but it would be nice to know if it is legal.

 

From the SLA:

19. “Networked Basis” means a computing environment that includes a Computer acting as a file server which allows the Licensed Materials Installed on such Computer to be uploaded and Installed to, and operated, viewed or otherwise Accessed from, other Computers through a local area network connection or through a VPN connection subject to compliance with the VPN Requirements.

 

I read that as saying that as long as the server is inside your domain environment, and you don't break any regional rules like running it across multiple continents, it should be permissible by Autodesk regardless of the physical location of the hardware.

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Re: Hosted License server?

09-17-2013 07:48 AM in reply to: stephencowling6059

Yes, so long as the NLM is in your private WAN or accessible thru a VPN, then it is acceptable.  However, you do not want your NLM open or accessible to the raw internet.  You also need to ensure that you are not using products outside of your region. 

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