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AutoCAD2006 and Revit 8.1 AutoCAD2006

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wnsm007
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AutoCAD2006 and Revit 8.1 AutoCAD2006

Our office has network license for AutoCAD2006 and all the PC has installed. Recently, we buy Revit 8.1 with network license about 40. We install in the same license server. The Revit 8.1 come with AutoCAD2006. We cannot install the Revit's AutoCAD in the PC which already installed the AutoCAD2006. We need to uninstall the pervious AutoCAD2006 then to install the Revit's AutoCAD. My question is : Can I edit any configuration file or Window registry to let our pervious AutoCAD2006 can use the Revit license without un-install and re-install the program?
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Message 2 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: wnsm007

Hello,

Sorry but the answer is no.
It's hardcoded in acad.exe.

--
Franck Hervet
www.aricad.fr


a écrit dans le message de news:
5123574@discussion.autodesk.com...
Our office has network license for AutoCAD2006 and all the PC has installed.
Recently, we buy Revit 8.1 with network license about 40. We install in the
same license server. The Revit 8.1 come with AutoCAD2006. We cannot
install the Revit's AutoCAD in the PC which already installed the
AutoCAD2006. We need to uninstall the pervious AutoCAD2006 then to install
the Revit's AutoCAD. My question is : Can I edit any configuration file
or Window registry to let our pervious AutoCAD2006 can use the Revit license
without un-install and re-install the program?
Message 3 of 11
TravisNave
in reply to: wnsm007

I wasn't aware that Revit's version of AutoCAD wouldn't install if AutoCAD was already installed. Autodesk generally keeps all of their vertical products in separate folders and registry keys. I have training machines with Revit that also have Mechanical, Electrical, and Architectural AutoCAD in addition to Vanilla AutoCAD.

Can somebody else verify this?


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Message 4 of 11
TravisNave
in reply to: wnsm007

Franck is correct. You can't force a vertical product to take a license that it doesn't belong to. Each product has a specific feature code that the License Manager uses to give out a license. Once installed, there is no way of changing it to pull another license. Sorry.

There are customers that have 3 or more icons of AutoCAD. One Mechanical license, one from Inventor Pro Mechanical, and one from Inventor Series Mechanical. That is just the way it is.


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Message 5 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: wnsm007

Hi,

It is true that a vanilla AutoCAD 2006 version cannot pull a Revit Series
8.1 network license, but that behavior has been improved in the AutoCAD 2007
release.

A new network licensing feature called cascade licensing included in teh
AutoCAD 2007 release. The new feature enables a vanilla AutoCAD 2007
installation to first try and pull and AutoCAD 2007 network license, and if
not available, will then try to pull a Revit Series Building 9 license. So
in the use case below, replaced with AutoCAD 2007 and Revit Series Building
9, there will be no need to re-install the pre-existing AutoCAD installs.

I hope you find this useful in the new AutoCAD 2007 release.

Regards,
Greg



"Franck Hervet" wrote in message
news:5123598@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hello,

Sorry but the answer is no.
It's hardcoded in acad.exe.

--
Franck Hervet
www.aricad.fr


a écrit dans le message de news:
5123574@discussion.autodesk.com...
Our office has network license for AutoCAD2006 and all the PC has installed.
Recently, we buy Revit 8.1 with network license about 40. We install in the
same license server. The Revit 8.1 come with AutoCAD2006. We cannot
install the Revit's AutoCAD in the PC which already installed the
AutoCAD2006. We need to uninstall the pervious AutoCAD2006 then to install
the Revit's AutoCAD. My question is : Can I edit any configuration file
or Window registry to let our pervious AutoCAD2006 can use the Revit license
without un-install and re-install the program?
Message 6 of 11
TravisNave
in reply to: wnsm007

Excellent news to hear. Is that what all the new junk at the end of my 2007 license is for?

My server status now shows:

Users of PLIST: (Total of 1 license issued; Total of 0 licenses in use)

... in addition to my ACAD 2007 license. What is that all about?


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Message 7 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: wnsm007

Hi,

Yes, the addtional INCREMENT PLIST information at the end of your 2007
license file is used to manage the cascading license behavior. That PLIST
item is effectively a new feature line in the license file, so it is
expected that it will appear in the server status as you have noticed.

Regards,
Greg Suppes
Autodesk, Inc.




wrote in message news:5124757@discussion.autodesk.com...
Excellent news to hear. Is that what all the new junk at the end of my 2007
license is for?

My server status now shows:

Users of PLIST: (Total of 1 license issued; Total of 0 licenses in use)

... in addition to my ACAD 2007 license. What is that all about?
Message 8 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: wnsm007

Hi greg,

First thanks for the information.
How will this option works with the RESERVE?
I have customers that use the option RESERVE.
example :
RESERVE feature_acad group
RESERVE feature_revitseries group

Sorry for this question but i didn't have read the documentation at this
moment of 2007.

--
Franck Hervet
www.aricad.fr


"Greg Suppes [Autodesk]" a écrit dans le message
de news: 5124767@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi,

Yes, the addtional INCREMENT PLIST information at the end of your 2007
license file is used to manage the cascading license behavior. That PLIST
item is effectively a new feature line in the license file, so it is
expected that it will appear in the server status as you have noticed.

Regards,
Greg Suppes
Autodesk, Inc.




wrote in message news:5124757@discussion.autodesk.com...
Excellent news to hear. Is that what all the new junk at the end of my 2007
license is for?

My server status now shows:

Users of PLIST: (Total of 1 license issued; Total of 0 licenses in use)

... in addition to my ACAD 2007 license. What is that all about?
Message 9 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: wnsm007

Hi Franck,

The RESERVE keyword behaviour is not changed. You can still reserve
features for a particular user or group of users, and those features will be
reserved for those users the same way as in AutoCAD 2006.

Regards,
Greg Suppes
Autodesk, Inc.


"Franck Hervet" wrote in message
news:5125021@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi greg,

First thanks for the information.
How will this option works with the RESERVE?
I have customers that use the option RESERVE.
example :
RESERVE feature_acad group
RESERVE feature_revitseries group

Sorry for this question but i didn't have read the documentation at this
moment of 2007.

--
Franck Hervet
www.aricad.fr


"Greg Suppes [Autodesk]" a écrit dans le message
de news: 5124767@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi,

Yes, the addtional INCREMENT PLIST information at the end of your 2007
license file is used to manage the cascading license behavior. That PLIST
item is effectively a new feature line in the license file, so it is
expected that it will appear in the server status as you have noticed.

Regards,
Greg Suppes
Autodesk, Inc.




wrote in message news:5124757@discussion.autodesk.com...
Excellent news to hear. Is that what all the new junk at the end of my 2007
license is for?

My server status now shows:

Users of PLIST: (Total of 1 license issued; Total of 0 licenses in use)

... in addition to my ACAD 2007 license. What is that all about?
Message 10 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: wnsm007

Hi greg,

I have 10 AutoCAD 2007 and 1 ARS9.
I deploy 20 AutoCAD 2007.
At one moment, i have 11 users that launch AutoCAD 2007. (11 ACD2007 + 1
ARS9).
It works.
But if i launch Revit , did i get a license for it?

--
Franck Hervet
www.aricad.fr


"Greg Suppes [Autodesk]" a écrit dans le message
de news: 5126407@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Franck,

The RESERVE keyword behaviour is not changed. You can still reserve
features for a particular user or group of users, and those features will be
reserved for those users the same way as in AutoCAD 2006.

Regards,
Greg Suppes
Autodesk, Inc.


"Franck Hervet" wrote in message
news:5125021@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi greg,

First thanks for the information.
How will this option works with the RESERVE?
I have customers that use the option RESERVE.
example :
RESERVE feature_acad group
RESERVE feature_revitseries group

Sorry for this question but i didn't have read the documentation at this
moment of 2007.

--
Franck Hervet
www.aricad.fr


"Greg Suppes [Autodesk]" a écrit dans le message
de news: 5124767@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi,

Yes, the addtional INCREMENT PLIST information at the end of your 2007
license file is used to manage the cascading license behavior. That PLIST
item is effectively a new feature line in the license file, so it is
expected that it will appear in the server status as you have noticed.

Regards,
Greg Suppes
Autodesk, Inc.




wrote in message news:5124757@discussion.autodesk.com...
Excellent news to hear. Is that what all the new junk at the end of my 2007
license is for?

My server status now shows:

Users of PLIST: (Total of 1 license issued; Total of 0 licenses in use)

... in addition to my ACAD 2007 license. What is that all about?
Message 11 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: wnsm007

Hi Franck,

Your use case will look like this:

Each user that launches AutoCAD 2007, will first ping the license server to
see if there is an AutoCAD 2007 license available, and if so, it will use
it. So in your use case, the first 10 users who launch AutoCAD 2007 will
consume the 10 AutoCAD 2007 licenses.

For your eleventh user, however, when they launch AutoCAD 2007, they will
ping the license server to see if there is an AutoCAD 2007 license
available, and there will be none in this case. So at this point, with the
change in AutoCAD 2007, we have new logic in place that instructs the
AutoCAD 2007 application to ping the license server again, but this time to
see if there are any ARS Building 9 licenses available. In your use case,
there will be one license available, and that eleventh user will consume it.

So at this point, you have 11 users running AutoCAD 2007 - 10 of them
consuming vanilla AutoCAD 2007 licenses and the eleventh consuming the one
ARS Building 9 license.

When any of your users try to launch the Revit Building 9 product at that
time, the Revit app will go through similar logic. The Revit Building 9
application will first ping the license server to see if any vanilla Revit
Building 9 licenses are available. In your case, there are none. So it
will then ping the license server to see if there are any ARS Building 9
licenses available. For all of your users, there will be no licenses
available, so they will not be able to run the Revit app - with the
exception of your eleventh user running AutoCAD 2007. That user already has
the ARS Building 9 license checked out, so he will be able to run the Revit
Building 9 app and the AutoCAD 2007 app at the same time.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Greg


"Franck Hervet" wrote in message
news:5128113@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi greg,

I have 10 AutoCAD 2007 and 1 ARS9.
I deploy 20 AutoCAD 2007.
At one moment, i have 11 users that launch AutoCAD 2007. (11 ACD2007 + 1
ARS9).
It works.
But if i launch Revit , did i get a license for it?

--
Franck Hervet
www.aricad.fr


"Greg Suppes [Autodesk]" a écrit dans le message
de news: 5126407@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Franck,

The RESERVE keyword behaviour is not changed. You can still reserve
features for a particular user or group of users, and those features will be
reserved for those users the same way as in AutoCAD 2006.

Regards,
Greg Suppes
Autodesk, Inc.


"Franck Hervet" wrote in message
news:5125021@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi greg,

First thanks for the information.
How will this option works with the RESERVE?
I have customers that use the option RESERVE.
example :
RESERVE feature_acad group
RESERVE feature_revitseries group

Sorry for this question but i didn't have read the documentation at this
moment of 2007.

--
Franck Hervet
www.aricad.fr


"Greg Suppes [Autodesk]" a écrit dans le message
de news: 5124767@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi,

Yes, the addtional INCREMENT PLIST information at the end of your 2007
license file is used to manage the cascading license behavior. That PLIST
item is effectively a new feature line in the license file, so it is
expected that it will appear in the server status as you have noticed.

Regards,
Greg Suppes
Autodesk, Inc.




wrote in message news:5124757@discussion.autodesk.com...
Excellent news to hear. Is that what all the new junk at the end of my 2007
license is for?

My server status now shows:

Users of PLIST: (Total of 1 license issued; Total of 0 licenses in use)

... in addition to my ACAD 2007 license. What is that all about?

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