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A2k profiles and NT4 rights - Jerry Millana howdy

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06-19-2000 12:08 PM
I have been operating NT4 workstation as admin and working
AutoCad2000 no problem. However, now I want to set another
user with limited access to the system. I gave enuf
permissions to get to a desktop with A2k icon, plus access
in Start to A2k, but AutoCad will not start - some problem
with the profile in NT4 or AutoCad - it won't start - I
forget the error -something about lack of access to profile.
Question: What is AutoCad2k needing to write to or read/add
that is not currently allowed thus disabling start of
AutoCad2k in my new NT4 user? Hey Jerry Milana - noticed
you are answering over here - I know you from the MB list -
howdy.
Dan Gordon
*milana, jerry
Message 2 of 7 (113 Views)

Re: A2k profiles and NT4 rights - Jerry Millana howdy

06-19-2000 04:33 PM in reply to: *Dan
Small world, Dan.

Sounds like you have given this person "guest privileges", that is not good
enough. Under NT 4, normal "user" permissions should be good enough however
if you are on a domain and policies are being set then this could change.
If this does not help, repost with specific errors.

jerry

"Dan" wrote in message
news:ef23d90.-1@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> I have been operating NT4 workstation as admin and working
> AutoCad2000 no problem. However, now I want to set another
> user with limited access to the system. I gave enuf
> permissions to get to a desktop with A2k icon, plus access
> in Start to A2k, but AutoCad will not start - some problem
> with the profile in NT4 or AutoCad - it won't start - I
> forget the error -something about lack of access to profile.
> Question: What is AutoCad2k needing to write to or read/add
> that is not currently allowed thus disabling start of
> AutoCad2k in my new NT4 user? Hey Jerry Milana - noticed
> you are answering over here - I know you from the MB list -
> howdy.
> Dan Gordon
>
*Schroeder, Bud
Message 3 of 7 (113 Views)

Re: A2k profiles and NT4 rights - Jerry Millana howdy

06-19-2000 10:35 PM in reply to: *Dan
Hi Dan,

You need to be able to write to the REGISTRY HKLM and you need to be
able to write to the CFG file. Under NT try User Rights. Under
Windows 2000 you need Power User. Also run ACAD once as administrator
so that the keys are set and the registry is updated. Then try the user
with less privileges.

Take care.

Bud

Dan wrote:

> I have been operating NT4 workstation as admin and working
> AutoCad2000 no problem. However, now I want to set another
> user with limited access to the system. I gave enuf
> permissions to get to a desktop with A2k icon, plus access
> in Start to A2k, but AutoCad will not start - some problem
> with the profile in NT4 or AutoCad - it won't start - I
> forget the error -something about lack of access to profile.
> Question: What is AutoCad2k needing to write to or read/add
> that is not currently allowed thus disabling start of
> AutoCad2k in my new NT4 user? Hey Jerry Milana - noticed
> you are answering over here - I know you from the MB list -
> howdy.
> Dan Gordon
*Dan
Message 4 of 7 (113 Views)

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06-20-2000 01:01 PM in reply to: *Dan
Jerry, Bud - thanks. I run ACAD as administrator on NT4 sp6
workstation. I need to restrict priviledges for any other
user that wants to sit at this machine since recently
someone deleted a whole set of project dwgs. So, in
explorer I have given read and add priviledges to this user
for all ACAD program files. It is finding the location of
these HKLM Registry items Bud mentions, and as well,
Christal Elliot of AutoCad mentioned that "AutoCAD requires
permissions to write to the registry in both
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and HKEY_CURRENT_USER locations." I will
try letting this user have access to the registry - but that
sounds dangerous - perhaps only read and add priveledges,
eh? What is the name of the registry file that I have to
add write priveledges? Ya know, I have never had this
problem of indiscriminate deletes for 3.5 years here with me
and my son running acad. So, my son got miffed at his
treatment here and went on to teach student pilots at
American Flyers - his passion. Within 2 weeks, this major
fubar happened with "very experienced" Cad operator. Anyone
else see this type of fubar happen? So since I command
security of project dwgs, I will do it NOW!
Dan

> Hi Dan,
>
> You need to be able to write to the REGISTRY HKLM and you
need to be
> able to write to the CFG file. Under NT try User
Rights. Under
> Windows 2000 you need Power User. Also run ACAD once as
administrator
> so that the keys are set and the registry is updated.
Then try the user
> with less privileges.
>
> Take care.
>
> Bud
>
> Dan wrote:
>
> > I have been operating NT4 workstation as admin and
working
> > AutoCad2000 no problem. However, now I want to set
another
> > user with limited access to the system. I gave enuf
> > permissions to get to a desktop with A2k icon, plus
access
> > in Start to A2k, but AutoCad will not start - some
problem
> > with the profile in NT4 or AutoCad - it won't start - I
> > forget the error -something about lack of access to
profile.
> > Question: What is AutoCad2k needing to write to or
read/add
> > that is not currently allowed thus disabling start of
> > AutoCad2k in my new NT4 user? Hey Jerry Milana -
noticed
> > you are answering over here - I know you from the MB
list -
> > howdy.
> > Dan Gordon
*Nehls, Kevin
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06-20-2000 01:42 PM in reply to: *Dan
You don't need to tighten down security so much that you end up making the
end user's job harder to do (if not impossible). Backup all of your data to
tape. That should ALWAYS be the first line of defense, not restricting and
constricting.

Just my .02

--
Kevin Nehls
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Dan wrote in message ...
>Jerry, Bud - thanks. I run ACAD as administrator on NT4 sp6
>workstation. I need to restrict priviledges for any other
>user that wants to sit at this machine since recently
>someone deleted a whole set of project dwgs. So, in
>explorer I have given read and add priviledges to this user
>for all ACAD program files. It is finding the location of
>these HKLM Registry items Bud mentions, and as well,
>Christal Elliot of AutoCad mentioned that "AutoCAD requires
>permissions to write to the registry in both
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and HKEY_CURRENT_USER locations." I will
>try letting this user have access to the registry - but that
>sounds dangerous - perhaps only read and add priveledges,
>eh? What is the name of the registry file that I have to
>add write priveledges? Ya know, I have never had this
>problem of indiscriminate deletes for 3.5 years here with me
>and my son running acad. So, my son got miffed at his
>treatment here and went on to teach student pilots at
>American Flyers - his passion. Within 2 weeks, this major
>fubar happened with "very experienced" Cad operator. Anyone
>else see this type of fubar happen? So since I command
>security of project dwgs, I will do it NOW!
>Dan
>
*Dan
Message 6 of 7 (113 Views)

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06-20-2000 03:12 PM in reply to: *Dan
That is what kept me from working overtime to restore what
was lost. Just do not want to incur that kinda loss again.
Thank you Kevin - I agree. My purpose is to provide minimal
use of this machine when I am not here, that's all - and it
is an AutoCad Station primarily.
Dan
Kevin Nehls wrote in message
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> You don't need to tighten down security so much that you
end up making the
> end user's job harder to do (if not impossible). Backup
all of your data to
> tape. That should ALWAYS be the first line of defense,
not restricting and
> constricting.
*Schroeder, Bud
Message 7 of 7 (113 Views)

Re:

06-20-2000 09:54 PM in reply to: *Dan
Hi Dan,

I would also have a chat with this operator and let him know that his
job is on the line. You should not have to go to all this work.

You may be working too hard on what to lock down. Give him Power User
rights and if you have NTFS drivers, then restrict him from the
directories you don't want him to touch. That way his programs will
run, but he can't break anything he should not. Again, I would also
warn him;-)...

Take care.

Bud

Dan wrote:

> That is what kept me from working overtime to restore what
> was lost. Just do not want to incur that kinda loss again.
> Thank you Kevin - I agree. My purpose is to provide minimal
> use of this machine when I am not here, that's all - and it
> is an AutoCad Station primarily.
> Dan
> Kevin Nehls wrote in message
> news:ef23d90.3@WebX.SaUCah8kaAW...
> > You don't need to tighten down security so much that you
> end up making the
> > end user's job harder to do (if not impossible). Backup
> all of your data to
> > tape. That should ALWAYS be the first line of defense,
> not restricting and
> > constricting.

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