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laggy and slow reaction drawing in civil 3d 2012

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Message 1 of 15
pcexpert
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laggy and slow reaction drawing in civil 3d 2012

Hi

 

I have a little issue with a brand new dell laptop. This laptop is a precision workstation m6600 pretty well loaded: i7-2960xm, 16 gig of ram,  256 gig ssd drive, quadro 3000m and win7 pro x64.

 

the issue is when i making a drawing in civil 3d 2012 the vertex when i move some line its pretty slow react or event if i want to remove some line have have time to wait 10-20 sec before it make change.

 

what i did first because, i'm a IT guy.

 

1- double check windows update .

2- installed brand new driver from nvidia that gamme up 2 days ago.

3- install update from autodesk web site for autocad 3d civil 2012.

4- install patch.

5- Intall new driver from intel web site.

 

I'm not a autocad specialist bud i can figured out how to work with.

 

sorry for some mispelling and grammar in english i need to reboot my english engine (french user).

 

I will appreciate any comment or help in anyway

 

thank you

 

 

 

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Message 2 of 15
pendean
in reply to: pcexpert

Turn of Windows 7's AERO theme, and go with a Windows Basic theme.

Do you have hardware acceleration turned on in Civil3D?

Message 3 of 15
pcexpert
in reply to: pendean

i made change and i got the same problem.

 

what a made

 

1- changing theme to classic one.

2- optimizing for performance in system manager

3- check firmware upgrade of ssd drive. seems they dont have any upgrade from dell but from samsung yes but unable to load it because is unsupported.

4- make diagnostics from dell and i have called them and still on phone for the test. ok now no problem for hardware.

5- disabled raid and enable ahci mode for the hdd because 2 hdd in the laptop.

 

i will consider re-install autocad civil 3d 2012

 

If anything can help me with ill apreciate

 

thank

Message 4 of 15
TravisNave
in reply to: pcexpert

Yank your network cable (and disable WiFi/BT) and see if you still have lag issues running completely offline.



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Message 5 of 15
pcexpert
in reply to: TravisNave

Hi

Thank you for your reply

 

I made different think.

1- finally a re-install win7 pro. original x64 with sp1.

2- installed driver. disabled aero and anykind of ...

3- installed autocad civil 3d 2012 4- testing ..

 

Still have laggy vertex and slow to react when a remove one vertex like 20 sec.

 

after testing, i made other think.

 

1- windows update

2- autodesk patch and update

3- disabled hardware acceleration and re-enable it.

and after all

4- disabled any wireless device such a bluetooth and wireless and ethernet card.

 

still have the same performance slow reponse in some vertex.

 

everyone thank you very much for your help i appreciate.

 

Cat Very Happy

Message 6 of 15
entropist
in reply to: pcexpert

It seems likely that your computer is trying to use the CPU's graphics as opposed the the dedicated graphics card. That would help explain the lag you're seeing...

 

Try disabling the Intel HD graphics function, so that it has to use the 'real' graphics card.

 

 

 

Message 7 of 15
GilesPhillips
in reply to: entropist

Check the drivers for the graphics cards as well - try to stick to the certified driver list that Autodesk publish as a starting point.

ACad, MEP, Revit, 3DS Max
Message 8 of 15
pcexpert
in reply to: GilesPhillips

Hi

 

I have verified with device manager and with other tool but this system have no intel gpu on them. I know on dell web site, dell have listed a intel graphique but didnt apply for this model. and i doubled checked with dell support bussiness team.

 

what i have done after all.

 

1- remove nvidia driver verde 295.73 release February 21, 2012

2- reboot

3- installed the driver from autodesk certified list 276.00 that event not listed from nvidia.

4- everyone will say, eh boy hp driver for elite on dell. i try but didnt find the hardware during install.

5- force installation of the driver in device manager by pointing the folder of the driver folder from hp.

6- didnt work at all.  problably a hardware checksum that didnt match to the hardware from hp.

7- the last thing will be a gpu remplacement because dell told me thats probably the gpu causing this problem

 

but last, i want thank you all of you for helping me.

 

 

 

  
Message 9 of 15
pcexpert
in reply to: pcexpert

Hi

 

we have changed the gpu under warranty and we have the same problem.

 

dell came and changed the

 

i test it the same way like before and i have the same problem.

 

so if someone have a idea i would be very happy

 

thanks

Message 10 of 15
dgorsman
in reply to: pcexpert

You stated earlier this was a laptop.  Are you running on battery?  A lot of mobile processors (and some video cards as well, I think) throttle down when on battery power to extend working time.

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Message 11 of 15
granite07
in reply to: dgorsman

I have an idea that will solve your problem - stop using Civil 3D and do something else for a few years until they solve the 'laggy' problem 🙂

 

I had similar problem and eventually built the machine in my signature link; it is also laggy. Good luck.

Forest Peterson, granite@stanford.edu; build-sheet
Message 12 of 15
parutter
in reply to: granite07

This may be a really silly question but, is the hardware acceleration turned on? A co-worker was experiencing a lot of lag issues just panning the mouse over m-text and after he turned it on, that problem was resolved.  I personally have the setting for rollovertips set to 0, and that also helps. Last thought is if the properties panel is open, collapse all the fields you can while there is nothing selected, otherwise its looking for pretty much useless information.

 

Good luck!

Message 13 of 15
granite07
in reply to: granite07

The original poster to this thread has been bombarded with suggestions of the form 'hey did you think of x since it can cause y'. Before they become increasingly annoyed with repeatedly responding with 'yes, I am not dumb and I know how to use google - of course I tried that' - they should compile a test process with a list of the possible issues - then sequentially test each; I did this and a methodical approach worked for me. I posted my process and results here http://cife.stanford.edu/wiki/doku.php?id=granite:3dmodelling:performance as an example. It has the alternative benefit of allowing everyone that wants to help the opportunity to first check if their suggestion has already been tried - or to see that while tried it was not implemented correctly.

Forest Peterson, granite@stanford.edu; build-sheet
Message 14 of 15
colby_phelps
in reply to: pcexpert

Well -- I am coming in to the discussion very late, but I do believe I have a solution. In case anyone comes across this discussion, try disabling DUCS (Dynamic UCS), by either turning off the DUCS in your application status bar (bottom of your CAD screen, or by hitting F6. This bad behavior can also happen because of a combination of DUCS and Rollover tool tips being enabled.

Colby Phelps
Senior Civil Designer @ GHD
HP Z640 Solid State Intel(R) Xeon(R) 2.20Ghz, (2 processors);64GbRAM C3D 2020,Win 10 x64, Dynamo Studio user!
Message 15 of 15
braudpat
in reply to: colby_phelps

 

Hello from France

 

A few ideas :

ROLLOVERTIPS = 0
QPMODE = 0
SELECTIONPREVIEW=2
Disable SCUD (F6 On/Off)
Disable ViewCube
Disable Transparency (TPY)

VSCURRENT : 2 (2D)

 

Have you installed the SP 2.1 for CIVIL 2012 ?

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=20310611&linkID=9240698

 

Bye, Pat

 

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