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    *rich

    Why Dell?

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    12-10-2003 03:03 AM
    I've been cruising the old posts looking for advice for picking out new
    workstations and something struck me...it seems like an awful lot of you
    are using dell for pc's/laptops/servers, way more than i would have
    expected. It seems like most people build their own boxes or go with
    Dell and I guess I was just curious why they are the brand of choice.

    Maybe I'm easily influenced, but I look at the CAD rags and see
    companies like Xi and Polywell consistently getting high ratings and put
    them on my list of to-be-considered. Personally I've had less than
    positive experience with Dell hardware but have heard good things about
    their service. Is there something I'm missing?
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    *Gump, F.

    Re: Why Dell?

    12-10-2003 03:24 AM in reply to: *rich
    Because it's so popular.
    Like the AOL of computer makers.

    :smileysad:


    "rich" wrote in message
    news:60C5B32F6C91F023DA786FC135061196@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > I've been cruising the old posts looking for advice for picking out new
    > workstations and something struck me...it seems like an awful lot of you
    > are using dell for pc's/laptops/servers, way more than i would have
    > expected. It seems like most people build their own boxes or go with
    > Dell and I guess I was just curious why they are the brand of choice.
    >
    > Maybe I'm easily influenced, but I look at the CAD rags and see
    > companies like Xi and Polywell consistently getting high ratings and put
    > them on my list of to-be-considered. Personally I've had less than
    > positive experience with Dell hardware but have heard good things about
    > their service. Is there something I'm missing?
    >
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    *Houlker, Paul

    Re: Why Dell?

    12-10-2003 03:45 AM in reply to: *rich
    Cause its a name the big wigs who sign the check know/trust.
    Personally I would never buy one.
    --
    Paul Houlker
    Rimex Supply Ltd
    www.rimex.com
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    *Lewis, Dave

    Re: Why Dell?

    12-10-2003 04:29 AM in reply to: *rich
    no one ever got fired for buying dell.
    What are the other choices?
    I absolutely hate HP, had horrible experience with there old (edited) systems.
    I found the older compaq with their old unique setups to be a pain, so I don't like them either.
    I ain't gona buy a cow computer either. So whats left?
    Custom building or botique computers. I used to custom build systems, but they
    took up too much time. Its like building a hotrod. Ya you could do it in your
    garage or go out and buy a corvette instead.

    I guess bad experiences in the past is still influencing my choices today.

    I personally like dell and have had very good experiences with their desktops and
    servers. I hated their india tech support, but that is supposedly gone now. One thing
    that I do recommend is getting their gold support package. Only because I hate the
    level 1 tech's who just read a script to give support. The gold guys are cool and helpfull
    when you need it.

    Plus dell is way cheep. Today there is a deal to get a 2400 for $350 after MIR wow

    rich
    |>I've been cruising the old posts looking for advice for picking out new
    |>workstations and something struck me...it seems like an awful lot of you
    |>are using dell for pc's/laptops/servers, way more than i would have
    |>expected. It seems like most people build their own boxes or go with
    |>Dell and I guess I was just curious why they are the brand of choice.
    |>
    |>Maybe I'm easily influenced, but I look at the CAD rags and see
    |>companies like Xi and Polywell consistently getting high ratings and put
    |>them on my list of to-be-considered. Personally I've had less than
    |>positive experience with Dell hardware but have heard good things about
    |>their service. Is there something I'm missing?

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    Dave Lewis
    CAD Manager

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    *Cox, Donovan

    Re:

    12-10-2003 05:02 AM in reply to: *rich
    dude, cause round rocks such a short drive from houston

    "Dave Lewis" wrote in message
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    > no one ever got fired for buying Dell
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    *Mims, Jim

    Re:

    12-10-2003 05:04 AM in reply to: *rich
    We've always liked Micron. Also, since they own Crucial, memory upgrades are
    cheap.
    This last round we bought 3 cadd systems and it came down to Micron and
    Dell.
    For the same configured system, Micron was $300 per computer cheaper than
    Dell.
    No problems and we're happy with our purchase.

    - Jim
    "Dave Lewis" wrote in message
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    > no one ever got fired for buying dell.
    > What are the other choices?
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    *Donahue, Mike

    Re: Why Dell?

    12-10-2003 06:04 AM in reply to: *rich
    "rich" wrote in message
    news:60C5B32F6C91F023DA786FC135061196@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > I've been cruising the old posts looking for advice for picking out new
    > workstations and something struck me...it seems like an awful lot of you
    > are using dell for pc's/laptops/servers, way more than i would have
    > expected. It seems like most people build their own boxes or go with
    > Dell and I guess I was just curious why they are the brand of choice.
    >
    > Maybe I'm easily influenced, but I look at the CAD rags and see
    > companies like Xi and Polywell consistently getting high ratings and put
    > them on my list of to-be-considered. Personally I've had less than
    > positive experience with Dell hardware but have heard good things about
    > their service. Is there something I'm missing?
    >

    1. Cheap.
    2. Reliable.
    3. Support.
    4. Model Consistency over several months.
    5. Long-term access to parts/peripherals.

    These components make Dell (and HP/Compaq) easy for companies to buy for
    their standard desktop.
    Easy to maintain, easy to support. The End User and the I.T. department
    will sometimes have very different "wants". The end user wants the very
    latest video card, even if no one else in the company has one. Or a mobo
    with SCSI support. Or whatever. I.T. departments are tasked with making
    purchases that give the employees the tools to do their job, in a
    cost-effective manner for the company. It's a balancing act that isn't
    always done properly.

    My .02 cents.

    Mike
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    *StillwellK

    Re: Why Dell?

    12-10-2003 06:32 AM in reply to: *rich
    you might have problems with any of the top sellers. All any of them do is
    assemble parts,so, check what's going into them. Had dell, gateway and xi,
    had problems with all. Dell was faster repair (24 hours) but all took care
    of the problems. I still reply with the old adage of ,Is Ford, Chevy or
    Dodge the best

    "rich" wrote in message
    news:60C5B32F6C91F023DA786FC135061196@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > I've been cruising the old posts looking for advice for picking out new
    > workstations and something struck me...it seems like an awful lot of you
    > are using dell for pc's/laptops/servers, way more than i would have
    > expected. It seems like most people build their own boxes or go with
    > Dell and I guess I was just curious why they are the brand of choice.
    >
    > Maybe I'm easily influenced, but I look at the CAD rags and see
    > companies like Xi and Polywell consistently getting high ratings and put
    > them on my list of to-be-considered. Personally I've had less than
    > positive experience with Dell hardware but have heard good things about
    > their service. Is there something I'm missing?
    >
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    *Schmidt, John

    Re: Why Dell?

    12-10-2003 06:40 AM in reply to: *rich
    I've been involved in numerous purchases of Dell computers, from labs with
    dozens of machines to laptops to servers, ('just installed another new Dell
    server here last week).

    Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've *never* had problem 1 with any of them.

    But the main reason I go with them is what you get for the money. No one
    else can match what they give you for the price, simply because of the scale
    of quantity they do.

    John

    "rich" wrote in message
    news:60C5B32F6C91F023DA786FC135061196@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    > I've been cruising the old posts looking for advice for picking out new
    > workstations and something struck me...it seems like an awful lot of you
    > are using dell for pc's/laptops/servers, way more than i would have
    > expected. It seems like most people build their own boxes or go with
    > Dell and I guess I was just curious why they are the brand of choice.
    >
    > Maybe I'm easily influenced, but I look at the CAD rags and see
    > companies like Xi and Polywell consistently getting high ratings and put
    > them on my list of to-be-considered. Personally I've had less than
    > positive experience with Dell hardware but have heard good things about
    > their service. Is there something I'm missing?
    >
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    *Stachoni, Matt

    Re:

    12-10-2003 06:50 AM in reply to: *rich
    I used to build all of our computers, until it was simply not
    cost-effective. My time is worth more to me and my company and it's
    simply too much overhead for dumb parts assembly. Tack on the time it
    takes to install and configure all of the software required, and it's
    about a day per machine. At this point it doesn't matter how cheap the
    parts are, it's labor that kills it.

    Plus, it's no fun at ALL.

    Then I went with a lower-level name brand who since went belly-up.
    Then promptly lost a couple of hard drives in my server and
    workstations which were not covered anymore. So it was lost time in
    shopping for new SCSI drives of the correct configuration, price, etc.

    Since we went with Dell, any faulty items were corrected immediately
    (well within three days at the most). Tech support came out to look at
    a weird server problem the next day. I had two replacement batteries
    and a new power AC adapter for my 3 year old laptop within 24 hours.

    No, they aren't particular deals, and the hardware aren't top of the
    line performers, but then they are stable as heck.

    Time is money. I usually have neither, so Dell makes sense for most of
    our corporate purchases.

    Matt
    mstachoni@comcast.net
    mstachoni@bhhtait.com


    On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:32:20 -0800, "StillwellK"
    wrote:

    > you might have problems with any of the top sellers. All any of them do is
    >assemble parts,so, check what's going into them. Had dell, gateway and xi,
    >had problems with all. Dell was faster repair (24 hours) but all took care
    >of the problems. I still reply with the old adage of ,Is Ford, Chevy or
    >Dodge the best
    >
    >"rich" wrote in message
    >news:60C5B32F6C91F023DA786FC135061196@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
    >> I've been cruising the old posts looking for advice for picking out new
    >> workstations and something struck me...it seems like an awful lot of you
    >> are using dell for pc's/laptops/servers, way more than i would have
    >> expected. It seems like most people build their own boxes or go with
    >> Dell and I guess I was just curious why they are the brand of choice.
    >>
    >> Maybe I'm easily influenced, but I look at the CAD rags and see
    >> companies like Xi and Polywell consistently getting high ratings and put
    >> them on my list of to-be-considered. Personally I've had less than
    >> positive experience with Dell hardware but have heard good things about
    >> their service. Is there something I'm missing?
    >>
    >
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