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juanmrodriguezrebollo
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Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

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06-19-2009 08:03 AM
Hi there, could some one tell me what brand and/or model of a graphics card is the BEST for Autodesk software? More compatible and has almost all supported features and is recommended by Autodesk! I'm asking this because I'm going to build a new machine for one of my costumer and he wants to have the best of Autodesk software. He does not care about the pricing of the product just want the best of the best so if some one could tell me I will really appreciate it. I'm looking for Nvidia and AMD products because of gaming and software support. I know gaming cards for Autodesk software does not means they have all supported features! Would really like if a Autodesk representative answers this to me.


Thanks
-------
Juan M. Rodríguez Rebollo
*Joel
Message 2 of 29 (6,879 Views)

Re: Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

06-19-2009 08:34 AM in reply to: juanmrodriguezrebollo
Best just to go here...

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/hc?siteID=123112&id=6711853&linkID=9240618

However, with Autodesk's move to DirectX, many of the mid-to-upper end
gaming cards are just as good in Autocad as the 2-3X more expensive
"workstation" counterparts (which all use the same GPU anyway). And, since
OpenGL is not even supported by Autocad in Vista, that pretty much
eliminates any advantage the workstation cards who's drivers, although
"support" DirectX, were never optimized for DirectX the way the "gamer" card
drivers have been in all these years. But no one from Autodesk will
actually admit that.

Back with 2007, they went totally OpenGL (and forced the "workstation card"
requirement) and swore up and down that they would NEVER go with DirectX.

Then the next year, with 2008, they added support for DirectX and dropped
OpenGL support in Vista.
*Jerry G
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Re: Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

06-19-2009 08:37 AM in reply to: juanmrodriguezrebollo
This is peer to peer support. Autodesk has a compatibility
page.....However autodesk software no longer needs OpenGL support and
actually performs better in Directx, so the best gamer's videocard will
work quite well. Autocad does not support dual videocards like Nvidia's
SLI or AMD/ATI's CROSSFIRE but doesn't have a problem with dual cards,
it just doesn't care.

juanmrodriguezrebollo wrote:
> Hi there, could some one tell me what brand and/or model of a graphics
> card is the BEST for Autodesk software? More compatible and has
> almost all supported features and is recommended by Autodesk! I'm asking
> this because I'm going to build a new machine for one of my costumer and
> he wants to have the best of Autodesk software. He does not care about
> the pricing of the product just want the best of the best so if some one
> could tell me I will really appreciate it. I'm looking for Nvidia and
> AMD products because of gaming and software support. I know gaming cards
> for Autodesk software does not means they have all supported features!
> Would really like if a Autodesk representative answers this to
> me.
Thanks ------- Juan M. Rodríguez Rebollo
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jmcintyre
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Registered: ‎09-24-2008
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Re: Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

06-19-2009 11:55 AM in reply to: juanmrodriguezrebollo
Using the link you provided, the applet tells me the recommended card for acad2010 from Nvidia are only Quadro FX cards (open GL).
Is it incorrect then?
*Joel
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Re: Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

06-19-2009 06:23 PM in reply to: juanmrodriguezrebollo
It's just that Autodesk won't get off that kick just yet.

They invested too much in OpenGL back in '05/'06 (to put in the 2007
release) to admit that they chose the wrong path.

Will the Quadro cards work?

Sure.

I have an FX3700 in my work computer (because Dell won't sell their
Precision line without one).

Is it a waste of money? In my opinion, at nearly $800, yes. But I wasn't
asked about it when they bought it. A GeForce 9800 GT at 150 bucks is
probably just as good.

And I don't care what they say about "certified hardware". I've had no
trouble with my little measley GeForce 6600GT I use at home. Or notice that
big of a difference between the two cards, graphics-wise.
Valued Mentor
jmcintyre
Posts: 647
Registered: ‎09-24-2008
Message 6 of 29 (6,879 Views)

Re: Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

06-20-2009 10:12 PM in reply to: juanmrodriguezrebollo
How does that hardware handle in 3Dorbit with shaded visual style?
*Jerry G
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Re: Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

06-22-2009 05:05 AM in reply to: juanmrodriguezrebollo
Remember that if you are running directx, the quality and speed have
nothing to do with the supposed advantages of the Quadro cards. And you
get a lot more directx bang for the buck if you stay away from quadro
and firegl.

jmcintyre wrote:
> How does that hardware handle in 3Dorbit with shaded visual style?
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ToanDN
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Registered: ‎09-26-2006
Message 8 of 29 (6,879 Views)

Re: Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

06-22-2009 05:50 PM in reply to: juanmrodriguezrebollo
It could be that some bound contract between nVidia's with either Autodesk or workstation manufacturers ain't over yet. You know the kind of contract to get their pricey "professional' product line to the "certified" hardware (Autodesk case), and "no other option sorry" (Dell, HP, etc...). Things went their way until the sh|t stirrer, namely Microsoft, joined the game and screwed things up with it's DX enforcing battle, which actually maybe a good thing.

Honestly I don't mind paying four time the price and expect the perfomance only be twice. But the fact is the performance is no where near what I expected. And the support is even worse. The so-called performance drivers don't work on most vertical applications, only vanilla AutoCAD. Who need "performance drivers" to draw lines and circle anyways?

So, to the OP, take the others' advices and don't waste the money.
*Joel
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Re: Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

06-23-2009 07:32 PM in reply to: juanmrodriguezrebollo
wrote in message...
>How does that hardware handle in 3Dorbit with shaded visual style?

The 6600GT does just fine for medium sized models depending on the
complexity. A huge model will go a little slow, but it does so on the
Quadro too.

The conceptual visual style seems to put the biggest strain on anything.
*John Mayo
Message 10 of 29 (6,879 Views)

Re: Best Graphics Card for ACAD software

06-24-2009 06:17 AM in reply to: juanmrodriguezrebollo
I have not not seen any benefit with 2010 from a Quadro FX 1700 vs a Radeon
4870 or a Geforce GTS 250 using XP & Vista 64. The Quadro was about $500 the
others under $200. I feel like I was ripped off just looking at the Quadro
side by side with the others. :smileywink:

--
John Mayo, PE

Core i7 920 6GB DDR3
Radeon 4870HD 1 GB
Vista64

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