No, it will not be released next quarter, i was referring to the beta. I
assume it will be Q4 2004, because their is not really much to recode, other
than recompile and optimize. Most software companies can recompile their
code to 64 bit inside of a week. Since the processor and architecture is
still x86, little has to be done. Most x86 code compiled to 64 bit runs on
an AMD 64 bit processor without any significant changes. Programmers just
usually rework the code to take advantages of the larger registers and the
massive memory addressing.
- Ashley Fulks
www.nisku.ca
"Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
news:0093BC4D742B90B33E152EE5F0A42C47@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I suppose I should have followed that link the FIRST time you posted it.
:-)
>
> It doesn't say anything about a 64 bit acad next quarter, though....
>
> --
> Jon Rizzo
> Langan Engineering and Environmental Services, Inc.
>
>
> "Ashley Fulks" wrote in message
> news:F169F74576824DCC1D7DF2BFBA5AD3C0@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112603,00.asp
> >
> > - Ashley Fulks
> > www.nisku.ca
> >
> >
> > "Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
> > news:D1E7B3B5C17C40ACC30874CCC0514705@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Where did you get this information? Is there a published article
about
> > > this, or is this the result of your own testing?
> > >
> > > Just curious.
> > >
> > > PS: You really think Autodesk will have a 64 bit version of AutoCAD
> > > available next quarter? ROFL. I'll believe that when I see it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jon Rizzo
> > > Langan Engineering and Environmental Services, Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ashley Fulks" wrote in message
> > > news:DF17E2129C565D15F8A3DA3757642881@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Your right John, I reread my sentence and it was not clear. What I
> ment
> > to
> > > > say is that AutoCAD runs 44% faster on the AMD 64 than on the 32 bit
> > Intel
> > > > systems.
> > > >
> > > > It will run a heck of alot faster than 44% when compliled for 64 bit
> > x86,
> > > > running on a 64 bit Windows XP next quarter.
> > > >
> > > > - Ashley Fulks
> > > > www.nisku.ca
> > > >
> > > > "Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
> > > > news:3160EFA21767F94B28AB12624A443516@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > That's not entirely true. Yes, AutoCAD uses 64 bit numbers,
however
> > the
> > > > > code is compiled for a 32 bit processor, so it is generating 32
bit
> > > code.
> > > > > Any 64 bit calculations still have to be broken down into 32 bit
> > > > operations.
> > > > > The only difference is most likely that 32 zero's will be added to
> the
> > > > high
> > > > > order bits of each instruction. The processor will process 64
bits
> at
> > a
> > > > > time, but only 32 of those bits contain useful information. To
take
> > > > > advantage of 64 bit processors, at the bare minimum the program
must
> > be
> > > > > recompiled for a 64 bit Processor.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jon Rizzo
> > > > > Langan Engineering and Environmental Services, Inc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ashley Fulks" wrote in message
> > > > > news:3B0CF3E0689300E90E8CF8C52B6E2F75@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > I see where you are coming from, but I think you would be paying
> > alot
> > > of
> > > > > > money in the future for something that is not worth it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Case in point: Intel roadmap -
> > > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12040
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Granted, the Pentium 4 - 2.4Ghz chip is the best "bang for your
> > buck"
> > > > > today
> > > > > > at less than $600, according to that roadmap. Then say at the
end
> of
> > > > next
> > > > > > year you want to upgrade to the 3.8 Ghz, you will be paying
$1,300
> > USD
> > > > for
> > > > > > another 1.4 Ghz of CPU power. I don't know how accurate that
> roadmap
> > > is
> > > > > > though, compared to reality, but I do know you will still be
stuck
> > at
> > > 32
> > > > > bit
> > > > > > code though.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think most people don't understand the leap in computing power
> > going
> > > > > from
> > > > > > 32 bit to 64 bit. It is exponential. For example the last time
> this
> > > > > happened
> > > > > > was when we went from MSDOS 6.22 (16 bit) to Windows 95 (32
bit).
> We
> > > > just
> > > > > > haven't seen a leap like that yet because the hardware is so
new.
> > But
> > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > not all wasted power today, AutoCAD already uses large 64 bit
> > floating
> > > > > point
> > > > > > numbers in calculations, and doing it in 32 bit is slooooow.
> That's
> > > why
> > > > > with
> > > > > > 64 bit OS, the same program will run up to 44% faster, and that
is
> > > still
> > > > > in
> > > > > > 32 bit code!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112603,00.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now don't get me wrong Paul, I dont think that you are wrong. I
> just
> > > > think
> > > > > > that we have a different idea of what the future will hold.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Ashley Fulks
> > > > > > www.nisku.ca
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Paul Houlker" <666paulh@rimex.com666> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:B81F2E0515CBC8B902D3310B36478616@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > > Right now I would buy a P4 system current roadmaps show
> > > socket/chipset
> > > > > > > stability right up to 3.8Ghz possibly 4Ghz, giving me upgrade
> > > options.
> > > > > Buy
> > > > > > > in at 2.4ghz, upgrade right to 3.8Ghz - 4Ghz on the same
> > motherboard
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > the chip prices fall.
> > > > > > > The Athlon 64 roadmap shows 3400+ max on the current socket
and
> a
> > > > switch
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > a 739(?) socket in the near future. This would kill any
possible
> > > > > upgrade.
> > > > > > > Also the current Athlon64's are only single channel, and it
> looks
> > > like
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > dual channel wont be coming until the next generation
> > > chipset/socket.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Right now I see the P4C systems having a longer lifespan than
> the
> > > > > current
> > > > > > > Athlon64 systems.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PS. I am going to build myself a P4C system for christams 😉
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Paul Houlker
> > > > > > > Rimex Supply Ltd
> > > > > > > www.rimex.com
> > > > > > >
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