I have come up against a stumbling block ad I was wondering if you might be able to assist me.
Fusion 360 is a web application that has a f3d file format and can export file formats igs, iges, sat, step, trp, and atf xml file types.
I have several output files from Autodesk’s Fusion 360 that I would like to print a color object on a Z Corp Spectrum 510.
Is it possible that one of the tools that Autodesk provides might help in getting the file into the proper color file format zbd, stl, bld, ply, sfx, 3ds, zec, zpr, and wrl. for a Z Corp Spectrum 510 printer?
With a desing open in Fusion 360, you can right mouse click on the top most node of the the browser and save as STL.
This will save the 3D print file.
In order to color the model you will need to use ZCorp's ZEdit software.
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Thanks for the great information! Unfortunately, the stl file format will loose all color information for 3D printing. Would you happen to have a way to get the color information included so that the color would be printed when the structure is printed?
I know Alias can expor the .zpr file format which is a zcorp file format that handles colour. I'm assuming you would like to see that export ability in Fusion 360?
Product Manager - Fusion 360
Thanks for your follow up. Yes, it would seem to be a simple addition to be able to add a VRML wrl file format to the export assumng that there isn't a major programming issue with such an addition. This would address the issue of having to take an image created in Fusion 360 and then importing the file into the Z Corp Zprint program which runs the Z Corp color printers.
When I first started out on this effort I under estimated the complexities of the issue when trying to read files by the Z Corp ZPrint utility which is used to send file information to the Z Corp Spectrum 510 color 3D printer. In speaking with Z Corp they defined their own file format, zpr, for the printer to function. ZPrint provides the ability to handle the following file formats zbd, stl, bld, ply, sfx, 3ds, zec, zpr, and wrl.
My quest is to find the simplest path from a graphical editing tool to the Z Corp printer for color printing. One tool that I have found is FormZ which has a zpr print file format included in its file exports.
Along the way I also started to look at Fusion 360 as tool for use internally for others who would have for a monthly charge a very capable program for their editing and printing needs for color rapid prototyping use. My initial evaluation of Fusion 360 leads me to several questions regarding Inventor Fusion no longer being supported and Fusion 360 replacing this product line. Has there been any consideration for the those who might want to use Fusion 360 off site where they might not be able to obtain an internet connection? There are several situations where customers will block the use of the Wi-Fi internet as well as not provide local connections either for security reasons.
How does one get from Fusion 360 to Alias or for that matter Inventor to Alias to be able to test the Alais zpr file format for printing?
You can export to Inventor file from the dashboard.
- Go to your dashboard and click on the details of a model
- Under the thumbnail you have the option to export
- This will open the export dialog box
- Choose the format you want to export out to in the format drop down
Currently you have the choice between a Fusion F3D, Inventor 2014 IPT, IGES, SAT, SMT, STEP, DWG, DXF and STL.
You can't create an Alias .wire file but Alias will read most of these formats.
- When you have selected the export type hit Export
- You will get a notice that the export has stared and you will get an alert when it is done.
- In the cloud your F3D file is being converted to the file type that you chose.
- If you go back to your home you can see the progress in the right hand side
- When the conversion is done you will see an new item in your activity feed
- This contains the translation report in PDF format. To download the file to your desktop, click on Download.
Hope this helps.
Product Manager - Fusion 360
Fusion 360 has an offline mode which kicks in when an internet connection in not detected. You don't have access to your cloud dashboard in offline mode but you have access to some of your local models and you can create new ones. Obviously there is no collaboration with other group members while you are offline.
Product Manager - Fusion 360
Good evening! Early this evening, I had a really great conversation with Nathan at the Autodesk Support Team. We spoke to some of the points of why I am so interested in exploring the directions of where Fusion 360 is developing. I am returning to share some of my thoughts with you at his suggetion to do so.
I appreciate your help in better understanding how I might get to a VRML wrl file and some of the software tool chain that would have to implemented to get the wrl file format. I will explore over the next couple of days the option that you have outlined. What I am trying to avoid is the necessity to have to go through the need to import into one software package to export to another to get where I need to arrive.
I have many years of working in the drug discovery field as a senior research scientist for a research automation technology group. Now, I am a part of a biotech startup looking to push further the use of 3D printing for this discipline. We eventually look to establish a tool for use by a pool of skilled design/fabrication specialists who would flexibly grow and diminish as our needs require. The current trajectory of Fusion 360 could very nicely allow us to change the number of such CAD users by altering the number of monthly subscriptions of Fusion 360 being used.
These individuals would be tasked with projects that would require Fusion 360 for preparing items for printing on Z Corp color 3D printers. The use of multiple software packages to import then export repeated multiple times promotes errors and expends valuable time. My other concern is that software tools undergo program improvements that often jepordize an established file format that once worked in this link of steps to convert a file format to get to the one that is needed.
I am Autodesk Ultimate Suite, CFD & Mechanical Simulators, Inventor Publisher, and Autodesk Vault professional user. Autodesk has an exception coverage of software and tools for which I am far from an expert user but a greatful user for the huge sandbox to work in and explore for solutions to the problems that I encounter. I am watching to watch see where Fusion 360 and 123d are developing. I didn't necessarily expect to see the all of the same capability of your flagship products. I would very much like to see the provison of VRML file export for 3D color printing and a stand alone operation Fusion 360 capability.
Fusion 360 has a tremendous potential for the use in the 3D printing arena. I was of the generation that experienced the explosion in the home computing area when MITS came out with the Altair 8800. I saved every penny I could gather and purchased such a kit that had 4K of memory with to my fathers chagrin. This was the edge of a revolution in technology!
I believe that we are observing another such opportunity in 3D and 4D printing. As such the software tools that form the cornerstone of this event will be building the future of technological development. I like very much the look, ease of use, and capabilities of the current Fusion 360. It provides all the right tools, comfort of use, and possibly the social network for sharing results and collaborating.
But there is cautionary side to the way in which Fusion 360 is going. I don't believe that the social networking tools have lived up to there full potential and it is because of the dynamics of human interaction that dictate successful team efforts, project management, and succesful project execution. I have been apart of many shared desktop engineering development, review, and brainstorming efforts. In many cases it works because the parties on both sides are committed to its success. It takes real work for these to work. social netwoking is a bit too loose and free an interaction. I wonder if innovation, hard work, and planning is some times confused with socializing with friends at the local bar. The effective running of a meeting is a rare skill which many seem to take for granted. I fear that many of the collaboration tools fail because of the lack of focused commitment of its participants.
Today there are free online academic course ( ie Open Course Ware initiatives coursera.org, edx.org, udacity.com, etc) being mass taught which surveys report that only 8% of the attendees are actually doing the work associated with the online course. Similarly, how many teleconference meetings have you attended where the parties on either side are only providing partial engagement with the meeting efforts. This is even true for in-person meeting held on one's own site. I admit that this is probably a bit more cynical than most but then I have sat in on many such meeting between my role with other companies, national labs, vendors, and university collaborators. Not all such meetings are failures but there are many wher it leaves you wondering what was really achieved. Social networking tool companies are a bit of a mystery to me and seem to depend on their advertising for earnings. Is this what Autodesk is thinking about? I am being facetious in this comment.
I do wonder where those who want a desktop version of Fusion will go with everything go on as a web app? I understand the cost effective repositioning of such an application. I also understand the ease of updating and maintaining a predictable and manageable sandbox for the end use as well as for trouble shooting by Autodesk So many of the large software vendors like Microsoft 365, Adobe, Norton, and others are looking to convert their yearly updates into month user subscriptions.
This reminds me of the early days of "Big Iron" computing era evolving to distributed PC now back to the central server approach. Unfortunately, this reminds of the cautionary tale of outsourcing that has happened in the pharmaceutical industry which makes such good financial sense has also resulted in a fair amount of havoc to it's industry. While I was working at NIST (formerly NBS) I saw a generation of MBA manager types come it the bureau and start to outsource the work being done in the labs for machine tooling, electronics design/fabricating, glass blowing, and etc. Initially the cost were lower, managers got promoted for saving money, and slowly internal capabilities disappeared such as custom built high resolution NMR, laser spectroscopy expertise, custom instrument design/fabrication skills and talents were gone and never return because the bureau had now become a more bureaucratic than fundamental research based. I really wonder what it is that you hope to get by the social networking component of Fusin 360?
A couple of other thoughts are the use of the Cloud is wonderful resource and everyone is racing in that direction these days. I am sure that there are aspects of the Cloud use that ill only become apparent once it begins to be used. I can't but help but wonder what are some of its deficits that will be incurred by its implementation.
Another concern would be that there are many very conservative business, like my former employer in the drug discovery business, who would be very leery about sharing files on the Cloud, running web apps that can't be isolated from the outside world. The reasons for these concerns are reflected in the news reports about industrial espionage, NSA leeks, and cyber hackers.
My strong suggestion would be to provide a VRML wrl file export to Fusion 360 for use with 3D color printers. There is a great survey you might take a look at http://surveys.peerproduction.net/2013/09/3d-print
Consider a legitimate offline version of Fusion 360 in the line of Inventor Fusion simply because it is very valuable to have something that can be used offline. The idea of a momentary lapse of internet connection is a great thought but not the same as a stand alone for use by the serious user. Another all quite often situation is the case where one might be at a secure customers site or not interested in a net connection to do some work.
Well this has been a bit longer than I expected and I hope that this might be food for some thought for the ongoing and maturing Fusion 360 product.