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cej
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Registered: ‎01-11-2008
Message 1 of 8 (408 Views)

dwf file does not show & question about copying

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01-09-2009 09:38 AM
A couple of questions:

1. I have uploaded a 3d file that was made in Inventor and published to dwf with a link as follows:
http://freewheel.autodesk.com/dwf.aspx?path=http://www.dyrlund.com/3d/supreme.dwf&sec=1

The freewheel browser opens but the data do not appear on the two computers I have tried ? does it have something to do with the file being too large ?

I doubt that the file is corrupt because when I enter the address directly in internet explorer Autodesk Design Review opens the file perfectly. What have I done wrong ?

2. Do you recommend to have more files gathered (like the dwf file stated above) or should they be split up to increase speed for the end user ?

3. What can be done to prevent other manufacturers of the items from copying some data from me ? I have turned off drillings and other "detailed" things that are not required to see the design ?

4. Finally, I wonder if somebody knows why the view changes - in Inventor I see the desk exactly from the side and have set it as front view and home. When the dwf file is created this view is no longer the same which results in the files opening from strange angle ?

Thanks in advance to anybody who can help. Best regards, Christian Jørgensen
*Scott Sheppard - Autodesk
Message 2 of 8 (408 Views)

Re: dwf file does not show & question about copying

01-09-2009 01:07 PM in reply to: cej

1. When you created the file,
face="Times New Roman" size=3>
href="http://www.dyrlund.com/3d/supreme.dwf">http://www.dyrlund.com/3d/supreme.dwf
,
you had digital rights management (DRM) enabled. You are probably used to making
DWF files that cannot be measured. Autodesk Freewheel does not support DWF files
where DRM has been turned on.

2. You can make one big DWF file. Once you have uploaded it, it should work
relatively quickly for your users.

3. Autodesk Freewheel does not provide the ability to measure. Users
receive an image of your design - not the DWF file itself. Freewheel is as
secure as email. Others won't find your DWF unless you email them the link to
it.


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A
couple of questions: 1. I have uploaded a 3d file that was made in Inventor
and published to dwf with a link as follows:
http://freewheel.autodesk.com/dwf.aspx?path=http://www.dyrlund.com/3d/supreme.dwf&sec=1
The freewheel browser opens but the data do not appear on the two computers I
have tried ? does it have something to do with the file being too large ? I
doubt that the file is corrupt because when I enter the address directly in
internet explorer Autodesk Design Review opens the file perfectly. What have I
done wrong ? 2. Do you recommend to have more files gathered (like the dwf
file stated above) or should they be split up to increase speed for the end
user ? 3. What can be done to prevent other manufacturers of the items from
copying some data from me ? I have turned off drillings and other "detailed"
things that are not required to see the design ? 4. Finally, I wonder if
somebody knows why the view changes - in Inventor I see the desk exactly from
the side and have set it as front view and home. When the dwf file is created
this view is no longer the same which results in the files opening from
strange angle ? Thanks in advance to anybody who can help. Best regards,
Christian Jørgensen
*Gyuri Ordody [Autodesk]
Message 3 of 8 (408 Views)

Re: dwf file does not show & question about copying

01-09-2009 01:25 PM in reply to: cej
Hello,

Please let me add a few things:

1. Even if you don't password protect your file, if you turn off
measurability or printability or markupability, it'll qualify as turning
on DRM.

3.
When you publish something on Freewheel, in theory nobody has a
knowledge of that, until you email the link to someone. When the email
is sent out from Freewheel, a key is generated that is associated with
your file, thus making it hard to identify the original from the emailed
link. However just like with anything else, once it's on the internet,
published, there are no guarantees, that it will stay out of unintended
hands.

4.
It seems like the initial view published is the view the model was in at
publishing time.


Scott Sheppard - Autodesk wrote:
> 1. When you created the file, http://www.dyrlund.com/3d/supreme.dwf, you
> had digital rights management (DRM) enabled. You are probably used to
> making DWF files that cannot be measured. Autodesk Freewheel does not
> support DWF files where DRM has been turned on.
> 2. You can make one big DWF file. Once you have uploaded it, it should
> work relatively quickly for your users.
> 3. Autodesk Freewheel does not provide the ability to measure. Users
> receive an image of your design - not the DWF file itself. Freewheel is
> as secure as email. Others won't find your DWF unless you email them the
> link to it.
>
> wrote in message news:6101851@discussion.autodesk.com...
> A couple of questions: 1. I have uploaded a 3d file that was made in
> Inventor and published to dwf with a link as follows:
> http://freewheel.autodesk.com/dwf.aspx?path=http://www.dyrlund.com/3d/supreme.dwf&sec=1
> The freewheel browser opens but the data do not appear on the two
> computers I have tried ? does it have something to do with the file
> being too large ? I doubt that the file is corrupt because when I
> enter the address directly in internet explorer Autodesk Design
> Review opens the file perfectly. What have I done wrong ? 2. Do you
> recommend to have more files gathered (like the dwf file stated
> above) or should they be split up to increase speed for the end user
> ? 3. What can be done to prevent other manufacturers of the items
> from copying some data from me ? I have turned off drillings and
> other "detailed" things that are not required to see the design ? 4.
> Finally, I wonder if somebody knows why the view changes - in
> Inventor I see the desk exactly from the side and have set it as
> front view and home. When the dwf file is created this view is no
> longer the same which results in the files opening from strange
> angle ? Thanks in advance to anybody who can help. Best regards,
> Christian Jørgensen
>
cej
Member
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎01-11-2008
Message 4 of 8 (408 Views)

Re: dwf file does not show & question about copying

01-09-2009 03:56 PM in reply to: cej
Thanks to both of you for quick replies, which are both quite useful.

I now tried to save the file again in inventor without making these limits and uploaded the file but when I enter the link it still tries to read the old file (I can see the window opening with page 1 of 2 and the new file only has 1 file in it? Why does it not overwrite the old one and update properly and how can I do this ?

Also I am looking at the right angle as per enclosed pdf file but it still makes the view wrong - only under published view can I find the right one but it should have been in the "initial navigation view" ?

Actually it was my intention to put a link to many of our 3d models on our website with freewheel free access to end users and designers that they could look at the details without being limited to certain views and distances if they were interested in the models so the idea of "hiding" the address would be quite bad ? Should I then instead rather make some pdf-files with fixed different views but with freewheel and design review being available it will not give the possibilities :smileysad:

Hope to hear from you again. Thanks in advance.

Hoping you can help me
*Scott Sheppard - Autodesk
Message 5 of 8 (408 Views)

Re: dwf file does not show & question about copying

01-09-2009 04:21 PM in reply to: cej

The old file gets read until the cache
expires.

 


 

For fun, try renaming the file
slightly.


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Thanks
to both of you for quick replies, which are both quite useful. I now tried to
save the file again in inventor without making these limits and uploaded the
file but when I enter the link it still tries to read the old file (I can see
the window opening with page 1 of 2 and the new file only has 1 file in it?
Why does it not overwrite the old one and update properly and how can I do
this ? Also I am looking at the right angle as per enclosed pdf file but it
still makes the view wrong - only under published view can I find the right
one but it should have been in the "initial navigation view" ? Actually it was
my intention to put a link to many of our 3d models on our website with
freewheel free access to end users and designers that they could look at the
details without being limited to certain views and distances if they were
interested in the models so the idea of "hiding" the address would be quite
bad ? Should I then instead rather make some pdf-files with fixed different
views but with freewheel and design review being available it will not give
the possibilities :smileysad: Hope to hear from you again. Thanks in advance. Hoping
you can help me
*Scott Sheppard - Autodesk
Message 6 of 8 (408 Views)

Re: dwf file does not show & question about copying

01-09-2009 04:24 PM in reply to: cej

If you WANT people to see your DWF files, then
you:

 

1. Embed them in your HTML pages using their public
URLs

2. People come to your web site and can see your
designs without having to install anything - they just use their browsers. This
includes Mac and Linux users as well as Windows.

3. People can use the navigation controls to pan,
zoom, orbit, etc. You won't need precomputed views.


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Thanks
to both of you for quick replies, which are both quite useful. I now tried to
save the file again in inventor without making these limits and uploaded the
file but when I enter the link it still tries to read the old file (I can see
the window opening with page 1 of 2 and the new file only has 1 file in it?
Why does it not overwrite the old one and update properly and how can I do
this ? Also I am looking at the right angle as per enclosed pdf file but it
still makes the view wrong - only under published view can I find the right
one but it should have been in the "initial navigation view" ? Actually it was
my intention to put a link to many of our 3d models on our website with
freewheel free access to end users and designers that they could look at the
details without being limited to certain views and distances if they were
interested in the models so the idea of "hiding" the address would be quite
bad ? Should I then instead rather make some pdf-files with fixed different
views but with freewheel and design review being available it will not give
the possibilities :smileysad: Hope to hear from you again. Thanks in advance. Hoping
you can help me
cej
Member
Posts: 5
Registered: ‎01-11-2008
Message 7 of 8 (408 Views)

Re: dwf file does not show & question about copying

01-10-2009 12:02 AM in reply to: cej
Thanks for the info. You say that I should just embed it. Is that the same as making a link ?

If I try opening the file www.dyrlund.com/3d/supreme.dwf on a pc without design review it does not recognise the page. What should I then do ?
*Scott Sheppard - Autodesk
Message 8 of 8 (408 Views)

Re: dwf file does not show & question about copying

01-10-2009 08:03 AM in reply to: cej

Ypu could place code that looks liek this in your
HTML page:

 

<iframe scrolling="no" width="800" height="
class=red>600
"
src="http://freewheel.labs.autodesk.com/dwf.aspx?path=
class=red>http://www.dyrlund.com/3d/supreme.dwf
">
</iframe>


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Thanks
for the info. You say that I should just embed it. Is that the same as making
a link ? If I try opening the file www.dyrlund.com/3d/supreme.dwf on a pc
without design review it does not recognise the page. What should I then do
?

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