Drafting Techniques

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*Trost, Warren
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03-27-2003 09:39 PM in reply to: pipe0069
On linen?


"Dave Alexander" wrote in message
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> Not as nice as ink though.
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> Dave Alexander
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> "W. Kirk Crawford" wrote in message
> news:smileyvery-happy:BCEC80BEDC852EC2122D9B12D1844F6@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Using mylar lead had such a great felling. So smooth so sharp. Just a
> > pleasure to use.
> > So editing wasn't so great.
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> > Later
> > Kirk
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*Alexander, Dave
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03-27-2003 11:06 PM in reply to: pipe0069
No....

The first company I started for had switched from ink on linen a couple of
years before and had just gotten to using masking tape instead of staples
for holding down the paper to the boards.

Dave Alexander


"Warren Trost" wrote in message
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> On linen?
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> "Dave Alexander" wrote in message
> news:23EBD25AE0E0A7557A3FEB3F47537737@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Not as nice as ink though.
> >
> > Dave Alexander
*PF
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03-28-2003 10:54 AM in reply to: pipe0069
Ink on mylar... Ahhh!
*Storey, Timothy B.
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03-29-2003 12:37 AM in reply to: pipe0069
Ink on Mylar, and pin bars...(that was the last manual drafting I did,
1988).

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"PF" wrote in message
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> Ink on mylar... Ahhh!
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*Alexander, Carol
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03-29-2003 11:41 AM in reply to: pipe0069
Good experience for Cad and using layers, but you know, I never made the
connection until years later when we got our ink jet printer and started
using greyscale instead of colored inks.

Dave Alexander



"Timothy B. Storey" wrote:
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> Ink on Mylar, and pin bars...(that was the last manual drafting I did,
> 1988).
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> This look left intentionally blank
> "PF" wrote in message
> news:f14fa9b.62@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Ink on mylar... Ahhh!
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> >
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*Keever, Brian
Message 66 of 102 (195 Views)

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04-04-2003 01:11 AM in reply to: pipe0069
Sorry, but I think that all of you are missing the point. CADD is entirely
different than manual drafting. Manual drafting was an artform that was used
to produce a set of graphical documents that explained a design. CADD
(Computer Aided Design and Drafting) still allows a user to produce the same
kind of graphical documents, but it also includes much more. Not all users
have need for all the advanced capabilities and very few orginizations
really take advantage of all the potential. Comparing CADD to manual
drafting is like comparing a Ford Mustang to the Space Shuttle, they are two
different types of machines designed for two different uses.

"Carol Alexander" wrote in message
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> Good experience for Cad and using layers, but you know, I never made the
> connection until years later when we got our ink jet printer and started
> using greyscale instead of colored inks.
>
> Dave Alexander
>
>
>
> "Timothy B. Storey" wrote:
> >
> > Ink on Mylar, and pin bars...(that was the last manual drafting I did,
> > 1988).
> >
> > --
> > This look left intentionally blank
> > "PF" wrote in message
> > news:f14fa9b.62@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Ink on mylar... Ahhh!
> > >
> > >
> > >
*Keever, Brian
Message 67 of 102 (195 Views)

Re: CAD versus Hand drafting

04-04-2003 01:17 AM in reply to: pipe0069
Sorry, but I think that all of you are missing the point. CADD is entirely
different than manual drafting. Manual drafting was an artform that was used
to produce a set of graphical documents that explained a design. CADD
(Computer Aided Design and Drafting) still allows a user to produce the same
kind of graphical documents, but it also includes much more. Not all users
have need for all the advanced capabilities and very few orginizations
really take advantage of all the potential. Comparing CADD to manual
drafting is like comparing a Ford Mustang to the Space Shuttle, they are two
different types of machines designed for two different uses.
*F., Scott
Message 68 of 102 (195 Views)

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04-04-2003 01:39 AM in reply to: pipe0069
Everyone is missing the point. CADD is no better than manual drafting when
you look at the finished project. To hear some people speak on it, one could
wonder how anything ever go built before CADD.
CADD is a TOOL to produce drawings. No better or worst in the end than the
human hand with a pencil or pen.
I started drawing on paper with a pencil and now use CADD, There are things
you can do with the pencil in a few seconds, that takes a few minutes with
CAD. But for general revisions, CADD is best.
Your pencil is now a mouse.

Scott

"Brian Keever" wrote in message
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> Sorry, but I think that all of you are missing the point. CADD is entirely
> different than manual drafting. Manual drafting was an artform that was
used
> to produce a set of graphical documents that explained a design. CADD
> (Computer Aided Design and Drafting) still allows a user to produce the
same
> kind of graphical documents, but it also includes much more. Not all users
> have need for all the advanced capabilities and very few orginizations
> really take advantage of all the potential. Comparing CADD to manual
> drafting is like comparing a Ford Mustang to the Space Shuttle, they are
two
> different types of machines designed for two different uses.
>
> "Carol Alexander" wrote in message
> news:3E866776.2293DA2@telus.net...
> > Good experience for Cad and using layers, but you know, I never made the
> > connection until years later when we got our ink jet printer and started
> > using greyscale instead of colored inks.
> >
> > Dave Alexander
> >
> >
> >
> > "Timothy B. Storey" wrote:
> > >
> > > Ink on Mylar, and pin bars...(that was the last manual drafting I did,
> > > 1988).
> > >
> > > --
> > > This look left intentionally blank
> > > "PF" wrote in message
> > > news:f14fa9b.62@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Ink on mylar... Ahhh!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
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wdiffendall
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Registered: ‎04-04-2003
Message 69 of 102 (195 Views)

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04-04-2003 04:50 AM in reply to: pipe0069
I simply cannot imagine doing a floor plan, then enlarged plans of various areas, reflected ceiling plans, interior elevations, etc. by hand. So much of what I do as an architectural designer/drafter is done using a "base" plan and xref-ing it into various other drawings as well as using it to project elevations.

Hand-drafting was fun until the paper tore or lines smudged or you had to change dimensions without changing entities (NTS!!! Do not scale drawings!!)

Not long ago I had to translate circa 1920 plans of a school into CAD-drawn elevations. They actually came out looking quite artistic, thank you very much.

I'll stick with my CAD til the end of my career. Handwork is a thing of the past - WAY past.
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old-cadaver
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Registered: ‎12-12-2003
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04-04-2003 05:18 AM in reply to: pipe0069
Scott,
As I've said before, if your hand drafting is faster that your CAD drafting something is broken. If you'll read some the previous posts, I requested an example of something that was faster drawn by hand. As yet there have been no takers. Now I'm not talking about a scratch off design thought (even though I use the machine for those as well), I'm talking about an issuable drawing. "if you eed a straight-edge, use a mouse)

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