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a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

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04-30-2004 04:41 AM
 
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Re: a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

04-30-2004 04:41 AM in reply to: Anonymous
 
*Michael Goossens
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Re: a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

04-30-2004 04:41 AM in reply to: Anonymous
Thank you for responding. Does someone need statistics to see if there are more people who use pdf files than dwf ? ;-) It is very well that dwf files can be printed to scale now. I'm happy because it was like a torture for clients to print to scale... I don't understand how to watch a web page created with function "Publish to web" (from Autocad Map 5) that make a web page with dwf files. Do they need other viewers ? It worked well before the last Autodesk DWF Viewer (formally named Autodesk Express Viewer) or with other dwf viewers. Now, those web pages doesn't work on my machine where Autodesk DWF Viewer is installed. It purpose to go to voloview page. So, is it possible to replace or update that "old" Autodesk 2002 function with a lisp or arx (on Autocad 2002) that automatically compose web pages that can be read on a cd from any PC ? (without any internet download if possible, and without needing permission from administrator to install any program ?) Michael
*pkirill
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Re: a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

04-30-2004 06:27 AM in reply to: Anonymous
I must say that I was a little disappointed to see that DWF Composer is not a bundled product. I was in a user group meeting a couple nights ago and we had a big discussion regarding DWF vs. PDF. The general consensus was that PDF will most likely remain on top for a few reasons: A) It seems like almost every software package you install these days requires Acrobat Reader and installs it for you. B) It's a required format in many project specifications. C) Even the most CAD illiterate person knows how to use Acrobat Reader. D) You can bundle dwgs, docs, spreadsheets, etc using Acrobat - DWF's only work on drawings. I was also a little disappointed to see the Markup Set Manager included in AutoCAD 2005. It seems a bit of a yank to include this when the thing you need to make it work is extra. Don't get me wrong - I think Composer is a great product and a good concept. I just don't see it making a big dent in the PDF/CAD market. Without being on the inside, my slap-shot marketing concept would be to give away Composer (to subscribers only if you want) and charge twice as much for Voloview.
*pkirill
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Re: a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

04-30-2004 06:46 AM in reply to: Anonymous
So now I have to take some of that back - I did not know that the DWF Writer was out. Very nice... "pkirill" wrote in message news:4092540d$1_3@newsprd01... > I must say that I was a little disappointed to see that DWF Composer is not > a bundled product. I was in a user group meeting a couple nights ago and we > had a big discussion regarding DWF vs. PDF. The general consensus was that > PDF will most likely remain on top for a few reasons: A) It seems like > almost every software package you install these days requires Acrobat Reader > and installs it for you. B) It's a required format in many project > specifications. C) Even the most CAD illiterate person knows how to use > Acrobat Reader. D) You can bundle dwgs, docs, spreadsheets, etc using > Acrobat - DWF's only work on drawings. > > I was also a little disappointed to see the Markup Set Manager included in > AutoCAD 2005. It seems a bit of a yank to include this when the thing you > need to make it work is extra. > > Don't get me wrong - I think Composer is a great product and a good concept. > I just don't see it making a big dent in the PDF/CAD market. Without being > on the inside, my slap-shot marketing concept would be to give away Composer > (to subscribers only if you want) and charge twice as much for Voloview. > >
*Ben Cochran
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Re: a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

04-30-2004 07:34 AM in reply to: Anonymous
Perhaps someone else can verify this, but I think the publish to web feature has been recently updated to use the Dwf Viewer. Also, the Viewer's help file provides documentation on how to set up a web page using the Viewer. Additionally, the news group autodesk.express.viewer is a good resource for information on Viewing dwf files in web pages. Composer is a superset of the Viewer and so information in the news group is also relevant to Composer. The following html should also help Ben Cochran Autodesk "Michael Goossens" wrote in message news:40923b65_1@newsprd01... > Thank you for responding. > > Does someone need statistics to see if there are more people who use pdf > files than dwf ? ;-) > > It is very well that dwf files can be printed to scale now. I'm happy > because it was like a torture for clients to print to scale... > > I don't understand how to watch a web page created with function "Publish to > web" (from Autocad Map 5) that make a web page with dwf files. Do they need > other viewers ? It worked well before the last Autodesk DWF Viewer (formally > named Autodesk Express Viewer) or with other dwf viewers. > > Now, those web pages doesn't work on my machine where Autodesk DWF Viewer is > installed. It purpose to go to voloview page. > > So, is it possible to replace or update that "old" Autodesk 2002 function > with a lisp or arx (on Autocad 2002) that automatically compose web pages > that can be read on a cd from any PC ? (without any internet download if > possible, and without needing permission from administrator to install any > program ?) > > Michael > > >
*Michael Goossens
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Re: a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

04-30-2004 09:04 AM in reply to: Anonymous
I totally agree with pkrill... (except D) point that he has see) and I'm happy that I'm not alone... Mr Ben Cochran, did you really respond to my question below ??? I'll cross-post if you ask me to do that. Question : Is it possible to replace or update that "old" Autodesk 2002 function with a lisp or arx that automatically compose web pages that can be read on a cd from any PC ? (without any internet download if possible, and without needing permission from administrator to install any program ?) Don't say that it is in autocad2004 or 2005, I don't want use them because I think they have nothing really interesting more. I don't want to make manually and set up web pages !... I don't have time for this and I would like be able keeping normal use with 2 years "old" important functions for easy publishing... I have plans with 70 paperviews that make 70 files, and since 2002 it was possible to create an html page with Map5 for easy navigation by everybody. Now, I have to buy a program to do the same. Tomorrow, client will need to buy another program to view these if Autodesk continue like that...
*Ben Cochran
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Re: a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

04-30-2004 09:47 AM in reply to: Anonymous
The answer to your question is "yes" it is possible, but you will need to find, build or download this. Another option would be to build and run a script on all your html files that swaps out the old WHIP! object tag and replaces it with the new ADV object tag. Someone in the autodesk.express.viewer news group might have and be willing to share a script with you that does just this. You say that you don't want to upgrade to Autocad 2005 because it does not have anything you find interesting. At the same time you appear to be very interested in DWF and the new DWF features in Autocad 2005. I find this interesting. Ben "Michael Goossens" wrote in message news:40927923$1_2@newsprd01... > I totally agree with pkrill... (except D) point that he has see) and I'm > happy that I'm not alone... > > Mr Ben Cochran, did you really respond to my question below ??? > > I'll cross-post if you ask me to do that. > > Question : > Is it possible to replace or update that "old" Autodesk 2002 function > with a lisp or arx that automatically compose web pages > that can be read on a cd from any PC ? (without any internet download if > possible, and without needing permission from administrator to install any > program ?) > > Don't say that it is in autocad2004 or 2005, I don't want use them because I > think they have nothing really interesting more. > > I don't want to make manually and set up web pages !... I don't have time > for this and I would like be able keeping normal use with 2 years "old" > important functions for easy publishing... > > I have plans with 70 paperviews that make 70 files, and since 2002 it was > possible to create an html page with Map5 for easy navigation by everybody. > Now, I have to buy a program to do the same. > Tomorrow, client will need to buy another program to view these if Autodesk > continue like that... > > >
*John Schmier \(Autodesk\)
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Re: a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

04-30-2004 10:09 AM in reply to: Anonymous
I don't have 2002 readily available to help you, but from memory, if you look in the help system for publish, you will probably find a reference "to customize publish to web...". This will tell you how to customize the template files used in publish to web. You can add the references, that Ben mentioned above with, some parameters to have ACAD 2002 work with DWF Composer and DWF Viewer. As for your comment about viewing the DWF Files on the client system will have to install either the DWF Viewer or DWF Composer to view the files. "Michael Goossens" wrote in message news:40927923$1_2@newsprd01... > I totally agree with pkrill... (except D) point that he has see) and I'm > happy that I'm not alone... > > Mr Ben Cochran, did you really respond to my question below ??? > > I'll cross-post if you ask me to do that. > > Question : > Is it possible to replace or update that "old" Autodesk 2002 function > with a lisp or arx that automatically compose web pages > that can be read on a cd from any PC ? (without any internet download if > possible, and without needing permission from administrator to install any > program ?) > > Don't say that it is in autocad2004 or 2005, I don't want use them because I > think they have nothing really interesting more. > > I don't want to make manually and set up web pages !... I don't have time > for this and I would like be able keeping normal use with 2 years "old" > important functions for easy publishing... > > I have plans with 70 paperviews that make 70 files, and since 2002 it was > possible to create an html page with Map5 for easy navigation by everybody. > Now, I have to buy a program to do the same. > Tomorrow, client will need to buy another program to view these if Autodesk > continue like that... > > >
*James Murphy
Message 10 of 27 (213 Views)

Re: a dwf composer was include in Autocad2002...

04-30-2004 05:49 PM in reply to: Anonymous
Paul, Think positive. My thoughts on your consensus are. A) Yes because that WAS the "one", there was no other to use that worked on everyone's system at the time. B) What else was there to use that was free and easy to use? C) The same can be said with DWF and the Dwf Viewer and Composer can be an easy tool to use it doesn't take any CAD knowledge to use it. D) You already found the DWFWriter :smileyhappy: At one time there were only the Big Three to chose from when we wanted a car, but now look at what happen to them and how many choices we have today. I agree there should be someway for Composer to be available to use for a client with out paying for it. If I'm a developer and have Co. A doing civil design and Co. B doing Arch design why should I have to pay someone else to review their designs? If you are Co. A are you willing to buy me a program to mark up your designs (along with the other 20-30 clients you may have)? MHO is Composer should be embedded on a firms web page to use and markup any drawings (DWF) on the web site and only that web site. Murph "pkirill" wrote in message news:4092540d$1_3@newsprd01... > I must say that I was a little disappointed to see that DWF Composer is not > a bundled product. I was in a user group meeting a couple nights ago and we > had a big discussion regarding DWF vs. PDF. The general consensus was that > PDF will most likely remain on top for a few reasons: A) It seems like > almost every software package you install these days requires Acrobat Reader > and installs it for you. B) It's a required format in many project > specifications. C) Even the most CAD illiterate person knows how to use > Acrobat Reader. D) You can bundle dwgs, docs, spreadsheets, etc using > Acrobat - DWF's only work on drawings. > > I was also a little disappointed to see the Markup Set Manager included in > AutoCAD 2005. It seems a bit of a yank to include this when the thing you > need to make it work is extra. > > Don't get me wrong - I think Composer is a great product and a good concept. > I just don't see it making a big dent in the PDF/CAD market. Without being > on the inside, my slap-shot marketing concept would be to give away Composer > (to subscribers only if you want) and charge twice as much for Voloview. > >

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