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*Jimmy Bergmark
Message 11 of 24 (273 Views)

Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-26-2004 07:45 AM in reply to: AFergusonHI
Measuring is not included AFAIK. -- Best Regards, Jimmy Bergmark CAD and Database Developer Manager at www.pharmadule-emtunga.com Take a look at JTB FlexReport (FLEXlm report tool) - www.jtbworld.com/jtbflexreport SmartPurger (Purges automatically) - www.jtbworld.com/?/smartpurger.htm or download some freeware at www.jtbworld.com More on AutoCAD 2005; www.jtbworld.com/autocad2005.htm "Murph" wrote in message news:408d1e3c$1_1@newsprd01... > Scott, > What DWG add-on module are you speaking of? The only thing I have seen with > composer is a DWG Viewer that is avaible as a seperate program. It allows > some one with out ACAD to view, measure & plot to scale a dwg not edit or > save as or extract info out of. I haven't seen the final release yet so I > don't know for sure. > > Murph > > "Scott Sheppard" wrote in message > news:408d15fb$1_3@newsprd01... > > I was actually shocked when DWF Composer announced it had a DWG add-on > > module. It would have made more sense to keep DWF Composer DWF only. This > > would place the AutoCAD DWG users in the same boat as the Inventor users - > > use a DWF to distribute design data. Now that the pussy cat's out of the > > bag, it will be interesting to see how DWF Composer unfolds. > > > > "Rodney McManamy - CADzation" wrote in message > > news:408d0f76$1_1@newsprd01... > > > I'm guessing where they are heading with this is to create a DWF from > your > > > Inventor files and these are what you are going to send to your clients > > for > > > markup and review. Even with VV3 if you send them the raw Inventor > files > > > you are letting out your intellectual property in a form that can easily > > be > > > stolen. The DWF on the other hand provides some level of protection and > > > doesn't give them the native file format that they can directly pull > back > > > into CAD. > > > > > >
*Scott Sheppard
Message 12 of 24 (273 Views)

Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-26-2004 12:22 PM in reply to: AFergusonHI
That is what I was referring to. I would have thought DWF Composer would not even have broached the subject of DWG. The world would have been so clean... "Murph" wrote in message news:408d1e3c$1_1@newsprd01... > Scott, > What DWG add-on module are you speaking of? The only thing I have seen with > composer is a DWG Viewer that is avaible as a seperate program. It allows > some one with out ACAD to view, measure & plot to scale a dwg not edit or > save as or extract info out of. I haven't seen the final release yet so I > don't know for sure.
*Rodney McManamy - CADzation
Message 13 of 24 (273 Views)

Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-26-2004 01:22 PM in reply to: AFergusonHI
That really surprises me also. I thought the whole idea of DWF was to get away from distributing DWG files and the headaches of future support to view the DWG formats. Not to mention the huge download size of the old Volo View. -- Rodney McManamy President CADzation ------------------------- rmcmanamy@cadzation.com ------------------------- 518 South Route 31 Suite 200 McHenry, IL 60050 www.cadzation.com Providing Industrial Strength PDF & DWF Solutions to the Global CAD Marketplace. "Scott Sheppard" wrote in message news:408d15fb$1_3@newsprd01... > I was actually shocked when DWF Composer announced it had a DWG add-on > module. It would have made more sense to keep DWF Composer DWF only. This > would place the AutoCAD DWG users in the same boat as the Inventor users - > use a DWF to distribute design data. Now that the pussy cat's out of the > bag, it will be interesting to see how DWF Composer unfolds. > > "Rodney McManamy - CADzation" wrote in message > news:408d0f76$1_1@newsprd01... > > I'm guessing where they are heading with this is to create a DWF from your > > Inventor files and these are what you are going to send to your clients > for > > markup and review. Even with VV3 if you send them the raw Inventor files > > you are letting out your intellectual property in a form that can easily > be > > stolen. The DWF on the other hand provides some level of protection and > > doesn't give them the native file format that they can directly pull back > > into CAD. > >
*Murph
Message 14 of 24 (273 Views)

Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-26-2004 02:15 PM in reply to: AFergusonHI
My take on the idea of the DWG Viewer is so that those that don't have the CAD background or knowledge can see/view a dwg. Example the CAD guy(s) are out in the field for a day and someone needs to view a set of plans, the office manager can open the dwg in the viewer and click on a print button and have a paper dwg., or those "higher ups" that want to look at what work is being done in the same GUI as ACAD yet now tie up a license of AutoCAD or be able to mess up a dwg because they don't know that the "E" key is the erase command not the Exit command. MHO Murph "Rodney McManamy - CADzation" wrote in message news:408d6fa9_3@newsprd01... > That really surprises me also. I thought the whole idea of DWF was to get > away from distributing DWG files and the headaches of future support to view > the DWG formats. Not to mention the huge download size of the old Volo > View. > > -- > Rodney McManamy > President > CADzation > ------------------------- > rmcmanamy@cadzation.com > ------------------------- > 518 South Route 31 Suite 200 > McHenry, IL 60050 > www.cadzation.com > Providing Industrial Strength > PDF & DWF Solutions to the > Global CAD Marketplace. > > "Scott Sheppard" wrote in message > news:408d15fb$1_3@newsprd01... > > I was actually shocked when DWF Composer announced it had a DWG add-on > > module. It would have made more sense to keep DWF Composer DWF only. This > > would place the AutoCAD DWG users in the same boat as the Inventor users - > > use a DWF to distribute design data. Now that the pussy cat's out of the > > bag, it will be interesting to see how DWF Composer unfolds. > > > > "Rodney McManamy - CADzation" wrote in message > > news:408d0f76$1_1@newsprd01... > > > I'm guessing where they are heading with this is to create a DWF from > your > > > Inventor files and these are what you are going to send to your clients > > for > > > markup and review. Even with VV3 if you send them the raw Inventor > files > > > you are letting out your intellectual property in a form that can easily > > be > > > stolen. The DWF on the other hand provides some level of protection and > > > doesn't give them the native file format that they can directly pull > back > > > into CAD. > > > > > >
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Doug Look, Autodesk
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Registered: ‎04-24-2004
Message 15 of 24 (273 Views)

Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-26-2004 06:38 PM in reply to: AFergusonHI
Great discussion guys! With DWG Viewer, we're just trying to be realistic, as there are still a whole lot of DWG's out there in the world. I agree that moving to DWF for sharing, communicating, and marking up is the right place to go. However there are still a lot of people who are still just now finding out about the value of a published file format like DWF. Hopefully with the introduction of DWF Composer, they will find some positive reasons to switch.
*Quinn Zander
Message 16 of 24 (273 Views)

Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-26-2004 09:24 PM in reply to: AFergusonHI
Isn't the main idea behind the DWG Viewer to be able to view AND produce a DWiF from a DWG? QBZ "Doug Look, Autodesk" wrote in message news:5636254.1083029920514.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com... > Great discussion guys! With DWG Viewer, we're just trying to be realistic, as there are still a whole lot of DWG's out there in the world. I agree that moving to DWF for sharing, communicating, and marking up is the right place to go. However there are still a lot of people who are still just now finding out about the value of a published file format like DWF. Hopefully with the introduction of DWF Composer, they will find some positive reasons to switch.
*Darren J. Young
Message 17 of 24 (273 Views)

Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-27-2004 07:29 AM in reply to: AFergusonHI
> Great discussion guys! With DWG Viewer, we're just trying to be realistic, as there are still a whole lot of DWG's out there in the world. I agree that moving to DWF for sharing, communicating, and marking up is the right place to go. However there are still a lot of people who are still just now finding out about the value of a published file format like DWF. Hopefully with the introduction of DWF Composer, they will find some positive reasons to switch. You should never get rid of the DWG viewing capabilities for work flow reasons alone. I don't need to be sold on the advantages of DWF, I'm a big fan, but it just doesn't make sense in a lot of cases. As an example, here we get DWG files sent by customers and architects. Our sales, project managers and estimators use them with VoloView to look at the job, see what's there, print hard copies, etc. There's no need for DWF because our drafters also need the DWG's for producing our shop drawings and ticket drawings for the plants. Because we ultimately do use the DWG (for our drafters) it makes no sense whatsoever to introduce a second file format. This would be a duplication of data and information and something that just doesn't make sense or take advantage of the benefits of proper electronic data practices. The only real question is, will DWF Composer be as efficient as AutoCAD at opening and viewing DWG files. VoloView can often take a considerable amount more time to open the same DWG as AutoCAD or AutoCAD LT. Almost to the point that we prefer to use LT for a viewing application or a networked license of AutoCAD. -- Darren J. Young CAD/CAM Systems Developer Cold Spring Granite Company 202 South Third Avenue Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320 Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com Phone: (320) 685-5045 Fax: (320) 685-5052
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Doug Look, Autodesk
Posts: 55
Registered: ‎04-24-2004
Message 18 of 24 (273 Views)

Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-27-2004 10:18 AM in reply to: AFergusonHI
Darren,
So, you're saying that there's still very good reasons for folks to share their DWG's, especially if they need to continue to edit the native files. I agree, which is why we offer the DWG Viewer as part of the overall solution. DWG's will continue to be part of the overall picture, as they are the source documents and are constantly being worked on.

DWF's can also play a role in the process as a good way of sharing snapshots or published views of that data. At least for some, DWF can be an appropriate way of sharing and communicating data with partners who don't need to actually edit the underlying data, but who need a simple and effective way to add markups and annotations.

The DWG Viewer that ships on the DWF Composer CD should be as efficient as AutoCAD 2005, as it's based on the same technology.

Cold Spring Granite--good product. I've got some Carnelian granite tiles surrounding my fireplace!

--Doug
*Darren J. Young
Message 19 of 24 (273 Views)

Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-27-2004 12:05 PM in reply to: AFergusonHI
> So, you're saying that there's still very good reasons for folks to share their DWG's, especially if they need to continue to edit the native files. I agree, which is why we offer the DWG Viewer as part of the overall solution. DWG's will continue to be part of the overall picture, as they are the source documents and are constantly being worked on. Exactly. Not to mention, as much as we'd like to, we rarely have control over what our customers send us. > DWF's can also play a role in the process as a good way of sharing snapshots or published views of that data. At least for some, DWF can be an appropriate way of sharing and communicating data with partners who don't need to actually edit the underlying data, but who need a simple and effective way to add markups and annotations. We're even exploring DWF as a means of long term archiving or historical data for some job types. Light weight. Accessible by everybody. Plus, we're sure to have the graphical integrity of the original document which isn't always the case when calling up DWGs. > The DWG Viewer that ships on the DWF Composer CD should be as efficient as AutoCAD 2005, as it's based on the same technology. I'll have to check it out once it's posted on the ADN web site. I've already notified our IT dept to halt any further VoloView orders until we've got a chance to put DWF composer through the ringer. I don't suppose it will support network licenses. ;-) > Cold Spring Granite--good product. I've got some Carnelian granite tiles surrounding my fireplace! From our South Dakota quarry. I'm curious as to how you purchased your tile? Was it through a distributor? Our Granite Mountain Stone Design showroom? etc. -- Darren J. Young CAD/CAM Systems Developer Cold Spring Granite Company 202 South Third Avenue Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320 Email: dyoung@coldspringgranite.com Phone: (320) 685-5045 Fax: (320) 685-5052
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Re: Composer vs Volo View 3

04-27-2004 12:56 PM in reply to: AFergusonHI
 

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