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DWG TrueView 2013 - Convert DWG to older formats with AEC Object Exploded

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07-26-2012 01:01 PM

We have started receiving 2013 drawings from clients that have AEC objects in them.  Currently we are using AutoCAD MEP 2010 or 2012.  When I had DWG TrueView 2012 installed on my PC I was able to open a drawing containing AEC objects and save it back to an older format with the AEC objects exploded using the TrueConvert feature.  Since I installed DWG TrueView 2013 I can no longer convert a drawing with the AEC objects exploded to an older drawing format (i.e. 2010).  The format options that would allow you to convert a drawing with the AEC objects exploded no longer show up in the list of available drawing formats.

 

Is this feature no longer available in DWG TrueView 2013?  Do I need to install Object Enablers to make it work?

 

I can load a 2010 drawing with AEC Objects in DWG TrueView 2012 and 2013.  In 2012 I have the option of converting the files with AEC objects exploded.  In 2013 I don't have that option.

 

Note: The test file I am using is a 2010 file containing AEC objects and I was attempting to save it as a 2004 drawing file just for test purposes.  The file I am really trying to convert is an 2013 drawing file.

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Re: DWG TrueView 2013 - Convert DWG to older formats with AEC Object Exploded

08-07-2012 02:00 PM in reply to: bakerrl2

Has a solution been found for this yet?  I'm having the same issue.  Clients are sending us Civil 3D 2013 drawings, and there is no option to explode AEC objects in Trueview 2013.  The object enablers are installed and everything is visible in Trueview, but there is no way to export the drawing properly to an earlier version without an explode option.  Was this feature removed for a reason?

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Re: DWG TrueView 2013 - Convert DWG to older formats with AEC Object Exploded

08-07-2012 02:20 PM in reply to: bakerrl2
I haven't heard from anyone yet; however, I believe I have found one solution. Note: The following solution uses AutoCAD MEP 2010. Also, in our case we were trying to save the drawing back to a 2004 format. 1. Launch DWG TrueView 2013. 2. Convert the drawing to the AutoCAD 2010 format. 3. Close DWG TrueView 2013 3. Launch AutoCAD Architecture using one of the profiles installed by AutoCAD MEP 2010. Example: AutoCAD MEP 2010 (US Imperial - Architecture) 4. Select the "A icon" --> Export --> AutoCAD --> 5. At this point you should be able to load the drawing and the AEC objects will be exploded. I noticed that DWG TrueView 2013 converted the AEC objects to a 2007 version when it save the drawing back to a 2010 format. By loading the drawing into AutoCAD Architecture 2010 it allow the AEC objects to be converted to the 2010 format. Then I could export the drawing back to a 2010 format or earlier and the AEC objects would be exploded. RICHARD L. BAKER II Svc Info Developer III ES Apps Development US HP Enterprise Services Telephone +1 913.458.2217 Email richard.baker-ii@hp.com [Description: HP_S_K_RGB_150_SM]
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Re: DWG TrueView 2013 - Convert DWG to older formats with AEC Object Exploded

08-07-2012 02:24 PM in reply to: bakerrl2

Thanks for the tip.  Unfortunately we're trying to convert down to Civil 3D 2009 from 2013.  I don't have architecture nor MEP available to me.  At this time I'm just assuming that Trueview 2013 no longer has the option to explode AEC objects, which is a huge problem for us.

 

Your solution may help out others, though.  It seems crazy that so much has to be done for such a simple need.

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08-07-2012 02:33 PM in reply to: devcrowley
I currently have AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012 installed on my PC as well. I checked the software and it has the ability to export information to older AutoCAD file formats just like AutoCAD Architecture. If you can't convert or export the file yourself, perhaps you could contact the person sending you the drawings and have them export them before they send them to you.
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08-07-2012 02:54 PM in reply to: devcrowley

The TIP above you simply knocked the file down to a version they can open, then they used full AutoCAD to remove/ explode AEC content. Can you not do the same? If not, post in the CIVIL 3D forum and seek ehlp from your peers, the viewer may not be an option in your case.

 

Also try this: Create an R14 Conversion setup in the Viewer, uncheck MAINTAIN Visual Fidelity option, and try it.

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08-07-2012 03:06 PM in reply to: pendean
That reminds. Originally we were trying to convert the 2013 drawing to a 2004 format. When we used DWG TrueView 2013 to convert the file it saved the AEC objects as a 2007 version whether we converted the drawing to a 2004 or 2010 format. As long as you have a version of AutoCAD Software (Architecture, MEP, Civil 3D) that is a 2007 version or higher you should be able to load the drawing and the objects should convert to the current version.
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Re: DWG TrueView 2013 - Convert DWG to older formats with AEC Object Exploded

08-07-2012 03:06 PM in reply to: pendean

I can save down to a 2007 drawing just fine, but the AEC objects come in as proxy entities when opened with Civil 3D 2009.  Trueview 2012 has the option to explode all AEC objects while exporting, whereas Trueview 2013 does not have that option.  This is the option we need to get back.

 

Exporting to an R14 version of the drawing from Trueview 2013 doesn't fix it.  They still come in as proxy entities.

 

Thanks for the help so far!

 

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Re: DWG TrueView 2013 - Convert DWG to older formats with AEC Object Exploded

08-07-2012 03:21 PM in reply to: devcrowley
I encountered that same situation myself. If I tried to load the drawing in standard AutoCAD 2010 even with the appropriate 2010 object enablers loaded I got proxy messages because the AEC Objects were a 2007 version. However, when I loaded the drawing in AutoCAD Architecture 2010 I didn't get the proxy messages. Something about loading the drawing using the Architecture profile allow it to convert the AEC 2007 objects to AEC 2010 objects. Once that was done, I could then export the drawing to a 2004 format and the AEC objects were exploded. At this point, it appears that the only simple way to convert the drawings is to loaded them using the version of the software they were created with and export them to an older format. DWG TrueView only seems to be able to handle standard AutoCAD entities.
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Re: DWG TrueView 2013 - Convert DWG to older formats with AEC Object Exploded

08-08-2012 05:10 AM in reply to: devcrowley

Browsing through the Civil forum seems to indicate you must load Civil "as AutoCAD" in order to gain export abilities that eliminate AEC content.

Your other choice is to ask the file originator to do it for you. I guess you could also upgrade to any 2013 version of AutoCAD that has a Civil OE and do the export yourself.

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