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Anonymous
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Wrong color and problem with plot scale

I've downloaded the latest express viewer
(german version, Build-Version: 3.0.0.55).

Currently I have two problems:

1. AutoCAD colors are not displayed proper in dwf.
We are using the AutoCAD color 153 with 50% screening,
it's a light blue. When plotting this color from
AutoCAD directly or from a .pdf made from an .eps-plot
then it appears as expected. But if I make a .dwf then
this color changes to a kind of green and that's not
what I want it to be. I've attached a gif with a
screenshot of this two colors, on the left side is
the color as it should be (and is in AutoCAD and pdf too),
on the right side the color as it appears in a dwf.

2. I cannot get the dwf plot to the correct scale.
For example I create a dwf using the dwf ePlot plotter,
papersize is A0 (1189.0 x 841.0 mm). If I open this dwf in
the express viewer, then in the print dialog the page
area is shown as 33.1 x 46.8 mm.
Maybe I do not understand the concept of the scale
plotting in the express viewer well. I would expect
that if I print a dwf with the viewer in the scale 100%
then I would get the same paper size as in the AutoCAD
plot dialog.
Maybe this has something to do with mm vs. inches. If
I multiply the values from the viewer with 25.4 then
I will get my original and desired values, but unfortunately
I cannot set the scale in the viewer to 25400%, the
maximum allowed is 999%.

Stephan
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Message 2 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Stephan,

The latest version is 3.1.0.78 and is available on the autodesk site.
Kindly test it with this build.

cheers,
thilak





"Stephan Koster" wrote in message
news:3E819694.2090806@cadworks.de...
> I've downloaded the latest express viewer
> (german version, Build-Version: 3.0.0.55).
>
> Currently I have two problems:
>
> 1. AutoCAD colors are not displayed proper in dwf.
> We are using the AutoCAD color 153 with 50% screening,
> it's a light blue. When plotting this color from
> AutoCAD directly or from a .pdf made from an .eps-plot
> then it appears as expected. But if I make a .dwf then
> this color changes to a kind of green and that's not
> what I want it to be. I've attached a gif with a
> screenshot of this two colors, on the left side is
> the color as it should be (and is in AutoCAD and pdf too),
> on the right side the color as it appears in a dwf.
>
> 2. I cannot get the dwf plot to the correct scale.
> For example I create a dwf using the dwf ePlot plotter,
> papersize is A0 (1189.0 x 841.0 mm). If I open this dwf in
> the express viewer, then in the print dialog the page
> area is shown as 33.1 x 46.8 mm.
> Maybe I do not understand the concept of the scale
> plotting in the express viewer well. I would expect
> that if I print a dwf with the viewer in the scale 100%
> then I would get the same paper size as in the AutoCAD
> plot dialog.
> Maybe this has something to do with mm vs. inches. If
> I multiply the values from the viewer with 25.4 then
> I will get my original and desired values, but unfortunately
> I cannot set the scale in the viewer to 25400%, the
> maximum allowed is 999%.
>
> Stephan
>
>


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Message 3 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

raot wrote:
> Stephan,
>
> The latest version is 3.1.0.78 and is available on the autodesk site.
> Kindly test it with this build.
>
> cheers,
> thilak


Thilak,

could you please give me a link to the latest version. On the autodesk
site http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?id=3023925&siteID=123112
I can only find the version 3.0.0.55.

Stephan
Message 4 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Stephan Koster wrote:

> Thilak,
>
> could you please give me a link to the latest version.

The information on the web site seems to be wrong.
I've downloaded now the the version 3.1.0.78 but
the two problems described in my first post still
remain.

Stephan
Message 5 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Problem #1 sounds like a problem with AutoCAD. You may have better luck
asking about this problem in the new group autodesk.autocad.print-plot.



I would like to know some more information about problem #2. Does the page
print and display at 33.1 x 46.8 or just print at that size. The page size
is displayed in the toolbar and the print dialog also displays the area
selected for print.



Ben



"Stephan Koster" wrote in message
news:3E819694.2090806@cadworks.de...
> I've downloaded the latest express viewer
> (german version, Build-Version: 3.0.0.55).
>
> Currently I have two problems:
>
> 1. AutoCAD colors are not displayed proper in dwf.
> We are using the AutoCAD color 153 with 50% screening,
> it's a light blue. When plotting this color from
> AutoCAD directly or from a .pdf made from an .eps-plot
> then it appears as expected. But if I make a .dwf then
> this color changes to a kind of green and that's not
> what I want it to be. I've attached a gif with a
> screenshot of this two colors, on the left side is
> the color as it should be (and is in AutoCAD and pdf too),
> on the right side the color as it appears in a dwf.
>
> 2. I cannot get the dwf plot to the correct scale.
> For example I create a dwf using the dwf ePlot plotter,
> papersize is A0 (1189.0 x 841.0 mm). If I open this dwf in
> the express viewer, then in the print dialog the page
> area is shown as 33.1 x 46.8 mm.
> Maybe I do not understand the concept of the scale
> plotting in the express viewer well. I would expect
> that if I print a dwf with the viewer in the scale 100%
> then I would get the same paper size as in the AutoCAD
> plot dialog.
> Maybe this has something to do with mm vs. inches. If
> I multiply the values from the viewer with 25.4 then
> I will get my original and desired values, but unfortunately
> I cannot set the scale in the viewer to 25400%, the
> maximum allowed is 999%.
>
> Stephan
>
>


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Message 6 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ben Cochran wrote:
> Problem #1 sounds like a problem with AutoCAD. You may have better luck
> asking about this problem in the new group autodesk.autocad.print-plot.
>
>
>
> I would like to know some more information about problem #2. Does the page
> print and display at 33.1 x 46.8 or just print at that size. The page size
> is displayed in the toolbar and the print dialog also displays the area
> selected for print.

Ben,

yes, it displays and prints at that size. I don't know what you mean with
the toolbar, but in the print dialog this (wrong) size is displayed.

Stephan
Message 7 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Assuming this is a DWF 6 file... In the viewer's toolbar there is a dropdown
control which lists the page names and contains the page sizes in brackets
(the same information is also found on the sheets dialog). You should be
able to verify that the size matches what is shown in the print dialog. If
not, please let us know.

"Stephan Koster" wrote in message
news:3E82D01E.2080107@cadworks.de...
> Ben Cochran wrote:
> > Problem #1 sounds like a problem with AutoCAD. You may have better luck
> > asking about this problem in the new group autodesk.autocad.print-plot.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to know some more information about problem #2. Does the
page
> > print and display at 33.1 x 46.8 or just print at that size. The page
size
> > is displayed in the toolbar and the print dialog also displays the area
> > selected for print.
>
> Ben,
>
> yes, it displays and prints at that size. I don't know what you mean with
> the toolbar, but in the print dialog this (wrong) size is displayed.
>
> Stephan
>
Message 8 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Jeffrey Klug (Autodesk) wrote:
> Assuming this is a DWF 6 file... In the viewer's toolbar there is a dropdown
> control which lists the page names and contains the page sizes in brackets
> (the same information is also found on the sheets dialog). You should be
> able to verify that the size matches what is shown in the print dialog. If
> not, please let us know.

The dwf is made with AutoCAD 2000i. I don't know if it is a DWF 6 file.
The dropdown control is greyed out. Sheets in the popup is greyed out as well.
Opening the file with quick view shows (DWF V00.42).

The size that is shown in the print dialog should match the size of the
paper that I printed the dwf to, or is that wrong?

Stephan
Message 9 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Can you email me the file?

"Stephan Koster" wrote in message
news:3E8313AE.8080503@cadworks.de...
> Jeffrey Klug (Autodesk) wrote:
> > Assuming this is a DWF 6 file... In the viewer's toolbar there is a
dropdown
> > control which lists the page names and contains the page sizes in
brackets
> > (the same information is also found on the sheets dialog). You should
be
> > able to verify that the size matches what is shown in the print dialog.
If
> > not, please let us know.
>
> The dwf is made with AutoCAD 2000i. I don't know if it is a DWF 6 file.
> The dropdown control is greyed out. Sheets in the popup is greyed out as
well.
> Opening the file with quick view shows (DWF V00.42).
>
> The size that is shown in the print dialog should match the size of the
> paper that I printed the dwf to, or is that wrong?
>
> Stephan
>
Message 10 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

This is an older dwf file that does not contain page/scale information. EV
notices that this file does not have needed page/scale information and
places the geometry on an 8.5 x 11 or 11 8.5 page.



Ben



"Jeffrey Klug (Autodesk)" wrote in
message news:3FD806134FD10692651B36714546370E@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Can you email me the file?
>
> "Stephan Koster" wrote in message
> news:3E8313AE.8080503@cadworks.de...
> > Jeffrey Klug (Autodesk) wrote:
> > > Assuming this is a DWF 6 file... In the viewer's toolbar there is a
> dropdown
> > > control which lists the page names and contains the page sizes in
> brackets
> > > (the same information is also found on the sheets dialog). You should
> be
> > > able to verify that the size matches what is shown in the print
dialog.
> If
> > > not, please let us know.
> >
> > The dwf is made with AutoCAD 2000i. I don't know if it is a DWF 6 file.
> > The dropdown control is greyed out. Sheets in the popup is greyed out as
> well.
> > Opening the file with quick view shows (DWF V00.42).
> >
> > The size that is shown in the print dialog should match the size of the
> > paper that I printed the dwf to, or is that wrong?
> >
> > Stephan
> >
>
>
Message 11 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ben Cochran wrote:
> This is an older dwf file that does not contain page/scale information.

Older dwf file don't have scale information? This seems strange to me.
What about volo view? It can measure drawing entities, so there has to
be a scale information.
What I need is the possibility to plot with scale 1:1.

> EV
> notices that this file does not have needed page/scale information and
> places the geometry on an 8.5 x 11 or 11 8.5 page.

No. Page size in the express viewer is 33.1 x 46.8 mm. 8.5 x 11 inches
are 215.9 x 279.4 mm.

Stephan
Message 12 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

There are two transforms involved with DWF Paper <-> DWF and DWF <->
Model. The measuring is done using the latter transform.

"Stephan Koster" wrote in message
news:3E8435EE.9010705@cadworks.de...
> Ben Cochran wrote:
> > This is an older dwf file that does not contain page/scale information.
>
> Older dwf file don't have scale information? This seems strange to me.
> What about volo view? It can measure drawing entities, so there has to
> be a scale information.
> What I need is the possibility to plot with scale 1:1.
>
> > EV
> > notices that this file does not have needed page/scale information and
> > places the geometry on an 8.5 x 11 or 11 8.5 page.
>
> No. Page size in the express viewer is 33.1 x 46.8 mm. 8.5 x 11 inches
> are 215.9 x 279.4 mm.
>
> Stephan
>
Message 13 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Be sure you're plotting your dwf at 1:1. This was my initial mistake.

--
Margo

Margo dot Reppert at aps dot com

"Stephan Koster" wrote in message
news:3E8435EE.9010705@cadworks.de...
> Ben Cochran wrote:
> > This is an older dwf file that does not contain page/scale information.
>
> Older dwf file don't have scale information? This seems strange to me.
> What about volo view? It can measure drawing entities, so there has to
> be a scale information.
> What I need is the possibility to plot with scale 1:1.
>
> > EV
> > notices that this file does not have needed page/scale information and
> > places the geometry on an 8.5 x 11 or 11 8.5 page.
>
> No. Page size in the express viewer is 33.1 x 46.8 mm. 8.5 x 11 inches
> are 215.9 x 279.4 mm.
>
> Stephan
>
Message 14 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Jeffrey Klug (Autodesk) wrote:
> There are two transforms involved with DWF Paper <-> DWF and DWF <->
> Model. The measuring is done using the latter transform.

You mean that an 'old' dwf file (prior to dwf 6) contains no information
about the paper size and can therefore not be printed in scale?

If so then this should be mentioned on the Autodesk express viewer site,
would have saved me a lot of time.

Stephan
Message 15 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Old dwf's prior to dwf 5.5.

"Stephan Koster" wrote in message
news:3E88351E.2010208@cadworks.de...
> Jeffrey Klug (Autodesk) wrote:
> > There are two transforms involved with DWF Paper <-> DWF and DWF <->
> > Model. The measuring is done using the latter transform.
>
> You mean that an 'old' dwf file (prior to dwf 6) contains no information
> about the paper size and can therefore not be printed in scale?
>
> If so then this should be mentioned on the Autodesk express viewer site,
> would have saved me a lot of time.
>
> Stephan
>

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