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*MJ
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you are not worth...

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01-31-2007 11:38 AM
So get the big yearly review. For the past 5 years you have been doing the
job of Drafter/cad man/IT/trouble shooter in a 45 person firm. You track the
hours of each job you do and come up with a pay increase to get you above
what a drafter in your area makes and more in line with the job you do. The
response from the uppers is "we can't have you making as much as an
architect"...... talk about make the jaw hit the floor.
*melanie stone
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Re: you are not worth...

01-31-2007 11:42 AM in reply to: *MJ
OUCH.

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"MJ" wrote in message news:5470529@discussion.autodesk.com...
So get the big yearly review. For the past 5 years you have been doing the
job of Drafter/cad man/IT/trouble shooter in a 45 person firm. You track the
hours of each job you do and come up with a pay increase to get you above
what a drafter in your area makes and more in line with the job you do. The
response from the uppers is "we can't have you making as much as an
architect"...... talk about make the jaw hit the floor.
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cedwards
Posts: 106
Registered: ‎09-27-2006
Message 3 of 34 (125 Views)

Re: you are not worth...

01-31-2007 11:48 AM in reply to: *MJ
Are you referring to a licensed architect or someone with an architecture degree?
Architects only value architets.
They dont see the value in admin, business management or IT.
Good Luck with the job hunt.
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k.baxter
Posts: 73
Registered: ‎08-02-2006
Message 4 of 34 (125 Views)

Re: you are not worth...

01-31-2007 11:48 AM in reply to: *MJ
Time to go.....
*MJ
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Re: you are not worth...

01-31-2007 11:50 AM in reply to: *MJ
They are referring to lic. arch's

wrote in message
news:5470535@discussion.autodesk.com...
Are you referring to a licensed architect or someone with an architecture
degree?
Architects only value architets.
They dont see the value in admin, business management or IT.
Good Luck with the job hunt.
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cedwards
Posts: 106
Registered: ‎09-27-2006
Message 6 of 34 (125 Views)

Re: you are not worth...

01-31-2007 11:59 AM in reply to: *MJ
quit, and hand them a contract as a consultant for 20 hours a week at what you make now.
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TerribleTim68
Posts: 51
Registered: ‎04-25-2006
Message 7 of 34 (125 Views)

Re: you are not worth...

01-31-2007 11:59 AM in reply to: *MJ
Yup, time to go. I have only been at this a short time, but I agree. Architects only value architects. Every time I come to the management with training, I get "we aren't in a position to make that kind of commitment", but for others they can make that commitment. Hard to move ahead with this mentality. I say, move on.
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jmcintyre
Posts: 1,654
Registered: ‎07-20-2003
Message 8 of 34 (125 Views)

Re: you are not worth...

01-31-2007 12:46 PM in reply to: *MJ
In a 45 person practive there should be a full time IT/CAD person not part time.

If you're only making what other drafters earn, then why take on all the other responsibility? Just go back to full-time drafting (unless you really want to do the IT/CAD stuff).

I used to be in the IT/CAD field, but there is no appreciation for what is done. I realised there was no way to progress in money or respect unless it's through project work, certainly not IT. I came up with processes to improve everyone's productivity and it's 'ho hum' to them, but do 1 pretty rendering and it's 'wow, you're worth more money'.
*MJ
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Re: you are not worth...

01-31-2007 01:01 PM in reply to: *MJ
"If you're only making what other drafters earn, then why take on all the
other responsibility? Just go back to full-time drafting (unless you really
want to do the IT/CAD stuff).'

I like doing that work more then drafting. But if they are not going to pay
for it then I feel I shouldn't do it.

"I used to be in the IT/CAD field, but there is no appreciation for what is
done. I realised there was no way to progress in money or respect unless
it's through project work, certainly not IT. I came up with processes to
improve everyone's productivity and it's 'ho hum' to them, but do 1 pretty
rendering and it's 'wow, you're worth more money'."

You are right, it's always a slap on the back and a "good job, we appreciate
that", but that doesn't pay the bills. Maybe I'll just start doing drafting
and then when they want something else done send them a bill for the work
done.
*kemp
Message 10 of 34 (125 Views)

Re: you are not worth...

01-31-2007 01:42 PM in reply to: *MJ
I would continue doing what you are doing, because learning more skills
makes you more valuable. Settling back into a drafting position will be
counterproductive for your future. The only difference is you should
consider taking these skills to another firm. I am in a similar ship,
and preparing to take the jump to another firm. Good luck matey!

MJ wrote:
> "If you're only making what other drafters earn, then why take on all the
> other responsibility? Just go back to full-time drafting (unless you really
> want to do the IT/CAD stuff).'
>
> I like doing that work more then drafting. But if they are not going to pay
> for it then I feel I shouldn't do it.
>
> "I used to be in the IT/CAD field, but there is no appreciation for what is
> done. I realised there was no way to progress in money or respect unless
> it's through project work, certainly not IT. I came up with processes to
> improve everyone's productivity and it's 'ho hum' to them, but do 1 pretty
> rendering and it's 'wow, you're worth more money'."
>
> You are right, it's always a slap on the back and a "good job, we appreciate
> that", but that doesn't pay the bills. Maybe I'll just start doing drafting
> and then when they want something else done send them a bill for the work
> done.
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